i read (dont quote me on this) that the difference in overclockign ability between X38 and P35 was non existant ~ people were able to overclock the same amount on the P35 as they were their X38. the difference was support for pcie-2.0 and 45nm cpu's... so same difference as between the 680i/780i chipsets? i dont get why people hate 780i but love x38 (other than crossfire vs sli)