Who actually collects processers? Besides my dad who has an amazingly old pentium pro along with some others and a stack of hard drive discs. Well to answer your question, Venice is 90nm and Winnie is 120nm. Therefore Venice is a new and more efficient technology and damn it can overclock like crazy from what I heard before it came out. 3200+ OC to 3g on stock cooling according to the thingy, dunno if you can actually get it that high by those means though.