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Old 11-19-2007, 11:06 PM   #11 (permalink)
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hmm i am loyal to amd, but i also want performence, it really hard to say, i do waan try out the ati3870's i love nvidia and i am a really a fanboy when it comes to them lol, but i wana try something new, and i like the idea of teh spider platform lol, i kno its just a marketign scheme, il see if by monday they have any over clockign reviews on the 9600, and how it performs. and if there is a spider platform vs intel/nvidia. comparisons.
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:29 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I suggest getting straight down to basics. Ditch the crossfire/SLI idea and cut down on your $250 dollar budget for a motherboard (way too much to spend on a mobo IMO). You can also tone down that PSU and if you go Intel, you can still go Quad, for cheaper, and even get the best performer

Another thing is, I know you're probably buying from NCIX because that shipping seems quite expensive. Go to DirectCanada.com, Canadacomputers.com or Infonec.com, they offer much better deals for shipping, some free, some flat-rate. btw, use shopbot.ca to help you out too.

I'm really not to sure exactly what you need to upgrade/transfer from your old build, or what exactly your situation is, but I've just replaced the parts from your initial post and noticed you were also interested in the 8800GT, here's what I suggest:

CPU: Q6600 ~$280

Mobo: IP35-E or DS3L ~$90-$100

GFX: 8800GT ~$250 (although, if you're patient enough, I strongly suggest waiting for the GTS G92 Revision, almost Ultra-performance for $300-$350 - coming December 3rd!)

PSU: Corsair VX550 ~$75 more than enough to run such a setup

Pocket the rest of the money and enjoy it on something else. Avoid the raptors and raid too, those are just not neccesary when you're a 17/18 year-old student on a budget. Remember if you want raid and SLI/crossfire, not only will you have to pay for a second hard drive and/or second video card, but your motherboard will also be more expensive, and IMO, it's not worth the investment for whatever increase in performance it may give. I'm on the same boat as you man. Just forget the gimmicks and think about the core parts and how you can balance them into a decent budget. and don't spend more than $100 on a case either, even less than that, like $80. Get an NZXT Alpha or Apollo, or an Antec 900, and as much tech-forums people suggest the Ballistix, we just don't always get the same deals here in Canada for some reason, some OCZ Plats can be extremely cheap, but if you find a deal on the Ballistix, take em for sure
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:52 PM   #13 (permalink)
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i allready own the raptors in raid lol, anyway im going amd9600 now after reading the still bogus reviews, i was quite surprised by toms hardware to run it on am2 not am2+ mobo, and there is only a 13.5% decrease in performence on the 9600 but thats with am2 if i can close the gap a litle with am2+ il be glad. the balistix are cheaper then the ocz plat on ncix. so here is what ive got for an upgrade

Crucial Ballistix PC2-6400 2GB 2X1GB DDR2-800 CL4-4-4-12 240PIN Dual Channel Memory Kit
In Stock 24641 $114.99 $114.99
Sunbeam Tuniq Tower 120 S754 S939 S940 S478 LGA775 Heatpipe Cooler 120MM Fan CPU Heatsink
In Stock 17867 $55.99 $55.99
Silverstone Strider ST60F 600W ATX12V 24PIN Modular Power Supply W/120MM Fan Active PFC
In Stock 19645 $120.47 $120.47
ASUS M3A32-MVP Deluxe WiFi 790FX AM2+ 4PCI-E16 CrossFireX 2PCI SATA2 RAID Sound GBLAN Motherboard
Backorder 27089 $241.68 $241.68
AMD Phenom 9600 Quad Core Processor 2.3GHZ 4MB 95W Socket AM2+
2-5 Business Days 27041 $294.99 $294.99
Check to delete an item YOUR TOTAL $828.12

$915.33 with shipin and taxes, now if i build a new rig.

il be doign this Crucial Ballistix PC2-6400 2GB 2X1GB DDR2-800 CL4-4-4-12 240PIN Dual Channel Memory Kit
In Stock 24641 $114.99 $114.99
Sunbeam Tuniq Tower 120 S754 S939 S940 S478 LGA775 Heatpipe Cooler 120MM Fan CPU Heatsink
In Stock 17867 $55.99 $55.99
Silverstone Strider ST60F 600W ATX12V 24PIN Modular Power Supply W/120MM Fan Active PFC
In Stock 19645 $120.47 $120.47
ASUS M3A32-MVP Deluxe WiFi 790FX AM2+ 4PCI-E16 CrossFireX 2PCI SATA2 RAID Sound GBLAN Motherboard
Backorder 27089 $241.68 $241.68
AMD Phenom 9600 Quad Core Processor 2.3GHZ 4MB 95W Socket AM2+
2-5 Business Days 27041 $294.99 $294.99
Diamond Viper Radeon HD 3870 512MB GDDR4 PCI-E Dual DVI-I HDCP HDMI HDTV Out Video Card
2-5 Business Days 26983 $239.99 $239.99
Coolermaster CM 690 Mid Tower Black ATX Case 5X5.25 5X3.5INT No PS Front USB Sound Firewire & eSATA
In Stock 26048 $77.35 $77.35
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition 32BIT DVD OEM

In Stock 22437 $112.98 $112.98
Western Digital SE16 320GB SATA2 7200RPM 16MB 8.9MS Hard Drive OEM 3 Year MFR Warranty

In Stock 22979 $75.98 $75.98
LG GSA-H62L Black SATA DVD+RW 18X8X16 DVD-RW 18X6X16 DL 10X Lightscribe OEM DVD Writer W/ SW

In Stock 24533 $34.99 $34.99
Check to delete an item YOUR TOTAL $1,369.41

Shipping & Handling: $50.97
Shipping Insurance: $21.07
Subtotal: $1,476.44
GST(6%): $88.59
YOUR TOTAL: $1,565.03
CAD
at xmass il pick up another 3870, if not more.

just oen question is shiping insureance really nessacery?
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it will be if something gets lost or the mailman steals your phenom out of envy. did i mention IM the mailman? lol.
you realize that last year i built a rig with an x2 4200 that cost just about the same as this.
amazing.
wow thats crazy how much you said the MSI mobo was there. its 179 bucks here. the gigabyte is 169.
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:21 AM   #15 (permalink)
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i like the asus anyway, i just whish tehre was a cheap case with good cooling with a window for teh same price of the 690.
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just oen question is shiping insureance really nessacery?
well, i never really liked 'insurance' as a concept, however, I'd hate to have my shipment lost or damaged and I'd have no one to go to, I just lose $1200, $1800 just like that, for the few extra dollars, sure they're screwing ya, but, it's a good sense of security to have

as for your build, if I were in your shoes, I'd just sell that entire rig and build anew, ditch Vista and stick with XP for now and that $1500 rig that you made just seems like a lot of fluff for nothing:

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Sub Total $1,116.00
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Total $1,200.70

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thats a good build too, dude.
certainly if you are going to spend that much cash.
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:26 AM   #18 (permalink)
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ive got some thinking to do before friday that for sure, im wanting to go phenom as i wana see the performence of it on am2+.
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well, cheers to that. it will perform just fine man. it will be fast and whatnot. but dont be surprised if it falls behind the q6600, cos it probably will in certain areas.
its still a good chip and i want one too. maybe santy claus will bring me one.
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well see after some ocing, and whatnot, so far there has yet to be one legit benchmark with the phenom on a am2+ mobo, with ddr800 ram.
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