I think it was either Flanker or Carbine that told me this, but when i needed to pick a video card, and 2 guys said that XFX is like all garbage....it turns out that the only reason ppl in this forum think it sux is because 1! person had a problem with it, and who knows maybe he tried shoving a PCI E in an AGP slot. XFX i think is also good because it comes overclocked.......and you wont have to screw it up if you try overclocking it urslef.