thats true. but also wasnt nt built from the ground up? or was it a glorified 98? to me thats all that vista seems to be. a tricked out xp. sorry to get off topic again, but as soon as i left, i just remembered that i forgot to ask one last thing. is there a version of mac os that compares to vista? or was it already out, like os X r sumptin. The General, i no u got a mac. what's your opinon on os X? how do u think that it compares to windows xp? lol, just thinking about it, if i gonna get a new pc, i aint givin my money to m$, might as well give it to apple, they aint got one penny from me yet...