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Old 01-18-2006, 03:13 PM   #21 (permalink)
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If you are looking into water cooling, then go with the Opty. If you're not OC, then dump the water cooler and go with the X2 4400+.
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OCing is not a big issue with me, but I have had heat related problems off and on with my current system and no matter what I decide to do in the future with this system or with any components I inter-change I want to get the best tower to eliminate heat. I feel like that tower with the water cooling is the best bet for that. I will more than likely go with the X2 4400. It was difficult to convince myself to look at AMD processors enough as it is! (laughs) I just have never been a big AMD fan, but I do recognize the speed of those dual-cores.
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Old 01-18-2006, 03:38 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I'm also building a new setup also. I too was a die hard intel fan. But after many late nights looking around here and elsewhere, I found the AMD is better for me. I mainly game. Don't let the mhz speed fool you. I've read on this forum and others that the AMDs are faster than specfic Intels such as a lower speed (in mhz) AMD is compairable to an Intel that is at a faster speed. If that doesn't cofuse you. I'll try to find the links to the right forum for you.

As far as cooling. I've found W/C is only for heavy OCers. Fan cooling is far suffeciant for normal use. Find a case with mulitple case fans and buy a good CPU fan/heatsink combo. You shouldn't have any problems. Thats MHO.

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You said blazing fast system and intel proactively in the same sentence... now im confused
How about a Dothan OC'd to 4GHz+?. It is currently the fast single core CPU out there.
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You don't think I will have some heat issues with 2 7800GTXs in there running SLI, combined with all the other hardware. I might need some serious cooling for all that! lol

Anyways, I'm going with the W/C system because of 2 reasons. The first reason is because I said I won't OC, but I might if I find I can do it well. Also, I live in Texas and it gets VERY hot in the summer time down here, and if I have to spend 10k my system will not get close to overheating.

I still haven't made up my mind completely about the processor, still looking at the specs between the Opteron 170s and the x2 4400+.
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Hey, I'm from Texas too! I say go with the WC, it's not going to hurt it to be colder, in fact, it might prolong the life of the stuff.
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Old 01-18-2006, 04:00 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Have you guys checked out the Tai-Chi tower? I am drooling over it LOL

Also, I will more than likely be OCing a little, not too much however. I'm looking at this RAM on Newegg.com with the Heat Spreaders, and they look nice. Anyone had any dealings with Heat Spreaders? I'm thinking on 4 512 sticks of Crucial Ballistix. That'll max out the board at 4gigs of RAM (grins). On Newegg, that's about $220 bucks + tax and shipping.
You should only go with 2 sticks of RAM and anymore then 2gb of RAM is useless. I suggest getting this if you're not gonna overclock http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231032
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^^^^^^^^^^^^ Good catch. As I was reading the post I was wondering of someone would catch that. He had 4x512=4GB. 4x512=2GB. And you're better having larger capacity sticks than smaller capacity. 2 1GB are better than 4 512MB.

Can someone explain this Operton to me. Is it lower grade, ie. Operton to Althon as Celeron is to the Pentium 4?
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No. Opteron is to Athlon as Xeon is to Pentium.
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Opterons are server chips, so they are hand picked and better made.

Semprons are AMD as celeron is to intel.

Wait for the 7900gtx's.
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