i hate the lian li, i kno there great cases, but it almost reminds me of the old beige Ibm cases, i like simplicity myself, but it has to look modern, thtas why i like the stacker so much, btu ive always preferd features over, looks this was my previous case, [TWEAKNEWS] - THERMALTAKE SVIKING BA400BWS BLACK COMPUTER CASE REVIEW - PAGE 1 looked ugly as ****, but had a built in fan controler and digital lcd read out. i do fidn it very ugly but at the tiem i bought it i was 15 and i thought it looked cool, i much prefer my nzxt apollo, but its looking very cramped with the tuniq tower, inside it.