well you really dont have to get the amd 64 3500 or all those, my brother is running a amd 64 3000 venice 939 @ 2.8ghz and its whooping up on all of those lol. even the fx55 and almost with the fx57 which is about 800-1000 bucks! and yes he paid 115 for the venice 3000, so u may want to look in to overclocking