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Old 06-21-2009, 10:08 AM   #71 (permalink)
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Am i missing something but does Newegg.ca - Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, Digital Cameras and more! not sell any water cooling products at all?
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I was actually checking them out before i saw this post. I was going to get the swiftech kit for 267.99 but i need to find out how i get an AM2 block from them. The specifications on the website are kind of jibbered. According to the PDF manual i have to request the AM2 block. I emailed the webmaster, hopefully i get a response on that issue.
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Old 06-25-2009, 12:51 PM   #75 (permalink)
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Alright so i've decided on this water cooler.

Swiftech H20-220 Apex Ultima Liquid Cooling Kit (Universal Mount / LGA 1366 Included) - FrozenCPU.com

From what I've heard swiftech makes quality water cooling products. As we speak they are sending me the AM2 plate for the water block.

I plan to mount the double rad on the side of the case by removing the fan on the side panel.

My next major decision is the video card

I have heard that the 4890 is not a good "bang for buck" card and that crossfiring two lesser cards equals the same price and has greater performance effects.

If i was going to go with a 4890 card i need help choosing a brand name.

From what i heard XFX is the best as far as warranties go. I have heard they support overclocking in there warranty and have a double life time warranty.

While asus and diamond only have two year warranties there cards by default have higher clock speeds.

This is the article i read

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...phire-xfx.html
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Old 06-26-2009, 02:05 AM   #76 (permalink)
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Dont worry about the the card with higher clocks, you can reach those by yourself most of the time, diamond is a good brand but xfx is better, and they also make higher clocked cards with a premium. I would go for the HIS
Newegg.com - HIS H489F1GP Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards
awesome deal with the rebate atm, otherwise go with this xfx
Newegg.com - XFX HD-489A-ZDFC Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards
As long as your card is working in the first two years it probably wont just die on you anyway, by the time it does, you wont be using it anymore.But if you are really self conscious about the warranty go for the xfx. You should be able to reach very nice clocks with the 4890.
oh and also, it IS worth every cent for todays prices, great card for the money.
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That card you linked is pretty pricy on newegg.ca

I think the XFX from ncix is the best value.


I found a cheap corsair PSU on ncix 850W for 119,99

you guys think that will support another gpu in the future and some heavy overclocking potential?

What kind of timings and voltages should i be looking for in ram.

I was going to go with g.skill or mushkin, are those good brands of ram?



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So i think i have a final build in mind. NCIX is having some killer sales that end on the 29th so i want to get in on that.

Here is what i have for the final build


MB: NCIX.com - Buy ASUS M4A78-E ATX 790GX Socket AM2+ DDR2 2PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 2PCI HDMI Video Sound GBLAN Motherboard - M4A78-E In Canada.
RAM: NCIX.com - Buy OCZ Reaper Hpc Edition PC2-8500 DDR2 4GB 2X2GB DDR2-1066 CL5-5-5-15 Dual Channel EPP Memory Kit - OCZ2RPR10664GK In Canada.
PSU: NCIX.com - Buy Corsair TX850W 850W CMPSU-850TX 12V 70A 24PIN ATX Active PFC 140M Fan Power Supply - CMPSU-850TX In Canada.
GPU: NCIX.com - Buy XFX Radeon HD 4890 XT 1GB 875MHZ 1GB 3.9GHZ GDDR5 PCI-E 2XDVI HDTV Video Card - HD489AZDEC In Canada.
CASE: NCIX.com - Buy Cooler Master Haf 932 Full Tower Black EATX Case 6X5.25 1X3.5 5X3.5INT No PSU USB eSATA 1394 Audio - RC-932-KKN1 In Canada.
HD: NCIX.com - Buy Western Digital WD1001FALS Caviar Black 1TB SATA2 7200RPM 4.2MS 32MB 3.5IN Dual Proc Hard Drive OEM - WD1001FALS In Canada.
DVD/CD: NCIX.com - Buy Samsung SH-S223F Black 22X DVD Writer SATA OEM - SH-S223F/BEBE In Canada.
CPU: NCIX.com - Buy AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition Quad Core Processor AM2+ 3.0GHZ 8MB Cache 125W 45NM Retail Box - HDZ940XCGIBOX In Canada.
Water cooling: Swiftech H20-220 Apex Ultima Liquid Cooling Kit (Universal Mount / LGA 1366 Included) - FrozenCPU.com

Should cost me around $1550 including taxes and shipping.
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Old 06-27-2009, 12:40 AM   #78 (permalink)
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Sup Cory... didn't know you hung out here.
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Old 06-27-2009, 10:32 AM   #79 (permalink)
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Hey sup spit wad, Where you playing dota these days?

I was thinking of actually going with an FX board.

NCIX.com - Buy ASUS M4A79 Deluxe 790FX SB750 Socket AM3 DDR2 4PCI-E16 2PCI SATA RAID Sound GBLAN 1394 Motheboard - M4A79 DELUXE In Canada.

Everyone seems to be raving about this boards OC potential and such.
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The basic difference between 790FX and 790GX/790X is the amount of PCI-E lanes.
790FX allows you to use 2 x PCI-E 16X slots at 16X bandwidth
790X/790GX allow you to use one PCI-E 16 slot at 16X, or two 16X slots at 8X each

I don't think it really makes any difference when crossfiring current cards though.

But, the Asus M4A79 Deluxe is a very good board for overclocking.
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