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Old 11-24-2007, 04:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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ok im gonna order this at first:

Razer Diamondback Plasma Blue 1600DPI Optical Mouse USB
Logitech X-540 5.1 Speaker System Black 70W RMS W/ FDD2 & Wired Remote
Razer Lycosa Gaming Ultrapolling Keyboard Black USB Programmable Blue Backlight NON-SLIP Keys
Samsung SH-S203B Black SATA DVD+RW 20X8X16 DVD-RW 20X6X16 DL 18X/12X INT DVD Writer OEM W/ Vista SW
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 3.5IN 500GB SATA2 8.5MS 7200RPM 32MB Cache NCQ Hard Drive
ASUS Maximus Formula SE LGA775 X38 ATX DDR2 2PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 2PCI 2GBLAN 1394A SATA RAID Motherboard
Diamond Viper Radeon HD 3870 512MB GDDR4 PCI-E Dual DVI-I HDCP HDMI HDTV Out Video Card
Crucial Ballistix Tracer PC2-6400 2GB 2X1GB DDR2-800 CL4-4-4-12 240PIN Dual Channel Kit W/ LEDs
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition 32BIT DVD OEM
Corsair CMPSU-620HX 620W ATX Triple 12V 50A 24PIN ATX Modular Power Supply 120MM Fan 2X PCI-E
Antec Nine Hundred Mid Tower Gamer Case 900 ATX 9 Drive Bay No PS Top USB2.0 1394 Audio
PC Assembly And Testing (PRE-CONFIG OS If Purchased)
NCIX Heavy Duty Shipping Box
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Quad Core Processor LGA775 Kentsfield 2.40GHZ 1066FSB 8MB Retail Box

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another gig of ram (think ill go Patriot Extreme Performance 1GB 2X512MB PC2-6400 DDR2-800 CL4-4-4-12 Dual Channel Memory Kit)
Diamond Viper Radeon HD 3870 512MB GDDR4 PCI-E Dual DVI-I HDCP HDMI HDTV Out Video Card
BenQ FP241W 24IN Widescreen LCD Monitor Black 6MS 1920X1200 1080P 1000:1 500CDM VGA DVI-D HDMI Pivot
Swiftech APOGEE GTX LGA775 CPU Water Block 1/2IN Chrome HI-FLOW Barb Fittings
Masterkleer Pvc Tubing 7/16IN ID 5/9IN OD 10 Feet
Swiftech Smartcoils 625 Blue
Swiftech MCP655 12V Industrial Water Cooling Pump 1/2IN Barbs
Danger Den G1/4 to 1/2IN High Flow Barb Chrome Fittings (2 Pack)
Swiftech MCR220 Quiet Power Dual 120MM Water Cooling Radiator Black G1/4 Threaded
Swiftech MCB-120 Radbox Revision 2 Black
Swiftech MCRES-MICRO Clear HI-FLOW Water Cooling Reservoir 3/8IN & 1/2IN Barb Fittings
Swiftech Hydrx Water Additive Coolant 2 oz Bottle
Antec TriCool 120MM Blue LED Case Fan 3PIN 4PIN W/ 3 Speed Switch
Antec TriCool 120MM Blue LED Case Fan 3PIN 4PIN W/ 3 Speed Switch

And overclock to 3.5 ghz
am missing anything?
any comments or suggestions?
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Old 11-24-2007, 04:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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is that right 3gb ram?

Crossfire yeah ?

Looks a good spec to me.
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take out: Crucial Ballistix PC2-6400 1GB DDR2-800 CL4-4-4-12 240PIN DIMM Memory Module
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no need for 3GB, either go 2GB or 4GB. (better performance in pairs)

if that is right, no need right now for 2 3870 GPU's... those things are nice as is in single... I think it would be just bragging rights to have 2 cards right now.

unless your going to OC like crazy or just REALLY want it, water cooling doesn't make that much of a difference. A good Air cooler in a good case can save you some money.

I would take all the savings you make and get a good set of speakers... maybe some Z-5500's or Z-5300 or even a Klipsech set (sp)

I would maybe think about 2 320GB hard drives instead of one huge one. 1. Single point of failure (if it happens) resulting in a total lose of all data. 2. A pair can be raided and get better performance out of them. 3. Cost effective as well... the bigger the drive the more expensive.

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good advice from Nukem

better go with 4gb RAM (for vista performance) all the same type.

Try one 3870 for now.. will save on your build.. you can always pop one in later when you really need it, at a lower price too.

Watercooling is personal preference.. if you want to try for super overclocks by all means go for it... but as Nukem says good air cooler will do nicely.

Speakers matter alot to me and quiet alot of people, something thats often overlooked. Remember your pc is now your new home music centre.

Very good advice about going raid. Safer and better performance.
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Thats one sick rig man.
this isnt a budget/performance system, its a higher end performance system, hence keep the 3870's as you will need them when you game at 1920x1200.

i wouldnt doubt if you could almost hit 4ghz with that set up. I'm hitting 3.5 with the same setup on air....

I would personally stick with the stock CPU cooler till you decide to water cool, whats the point in spending that extra money when you plan on water cooling it anyway?

If you are willing to give RAID a try then you should listen to nukem.
You'll get faster load times out of a raid array, and it will be cheaper then using a single 500Gb drive. With the maximus its an incredibly easy process to set up.
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i think im going to build it so raid scares me, is it difficult to setup?
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also im gonna stick with watercooling, so ill take the cooling freezer out
also ill move a video card to the get later list. i like 3 gb i dont know why, and im not getting 4 cuz i dont want to get 64 bit vista. Anything else?
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also if i did take the ram out i would get better performance?
2gb duel channel > 3 gb ?
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RAID is not hard to set up. You do that in the initial setup of the OS. Your choice, but 3GB is not going to provide any more performance than 2GB at this point. but for the most part you have a nice setup in H2O so I think you'll be happy with it.

oh and 4GB isn't just for 64-bit anymore... more and more games, and apps are taking advantage of the ram, Vista alone will love more and more ram.
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