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Old 04-06-2014, 02:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi all,

Just recently I had my computer crap out on me (graphics card died), and as such I'm looking at getting a new one. I've been browsing around for something to replace what I had and I've come across two that look promising.

First: cost before taxes $1039CAD

Processor Type AMD A10-7700K Kaveri APU
Processor Speed 3.4 GHz
Processor Cores 4
RAM 8 GB DDR3 (1333 MHz)
Hard Drive Capacity 1 TB SATAIII
Hard Drive Speed 7200 RPM
Optical Drive 8X DVD±RW Slim Optical Drive
Pre-loaded OS Windows 8.1 64-Bit
Graphics Card AMD Radeon R9 270X
Dedicated Graphic Card Yes
Video Memory 2 GB

Second: Cost before taxes $1049CAD (currently 949 due to a sale)

Processor Type Intel Core i7 4770
Processor Speed 3.4 GHz
Processor Cores 4
RAM 12GB (DDR3 1600MHz)
Hard Drive Capacity 2 TB
Hard Drive Speed [RIGHT]7200 RPM
Optical Drive BD Combo
Pre-loaded OS Windows 8.1
Graphics Card Nvidia GTX 650
Dedicated Graphic Card Yes
Video Memory 1 GB


I'm not a ridiculously avid gamer, but I do play, and I want this to be able to last me for a while. My main concern is that (according to most websites) the A10 isn't as powerful as the i7, but the gt 650 gets blown out of the water by the R9. Both are still an improvement on my old rig.

So, which would be better dollar-for-dollar, and why?
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Old 04-06-2014, 02:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If you built one you could do better for the price, On the web on my phone ATM so putting a system together would be tough but will be at my PC soon if not I'm sure someone here will do it also, On one item you won't really need the i7 4770, The i5 4670K will be the same performance without the hyper threading which many things don't use and it's $100 cheaper. As for the GTX650 and the R-9 270X neither are "great" cards, Both are decent but with the $100 saved with the i5 you can do a lot better. I'll be at my PC soon so if nobody else comes in I'll see what I can put together for parts to show you what you can do for the price.

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Old 04-06-2014, 03:47 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I believe you would be better off building. You could put together a much better overall system for the money.

Suggestion:
MOBO: Asrock H81 or Equivalent(Z87 chipset is only needed if buying K version of CPU)
I5-4670(non-K unless you plan to overclock)
8gb or 16gb RAM(2*4gb or 2*8gb)
Power Supply Corsair TX650 or Seasonic 620
GPU: EVGA GTX 760
CASE of Choice(Corsair 200R is cheap and solid)
SSD for OS 120gb Samsung EVO
HDD 1TB for Storage

Not sure what site to use for pricing, but should be close.
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Old 04-06-2014, 05:07 PM   #4 (permalink)
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A few things I noticed to save you a little more money would be to forget the blue ray unless you have a use for it but would save you a few $$$$ and the 2 trb HD, If you need that much and store lots of movies and music then it might be worth it but 1 trb would be plenty for most people. I also used 8 gigs of ram but faster ram than the package you posted (1600 vrs the 1333) This all comes to $889.91 and you know what parts are going in instead of them using cheaper brands that may be unreliable.

cpu
Newegg.ca - Intel Core i5-4670 Haswell 3.4GHz LGA 1150 84W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80646I54670
mother board
Newegg.ca - ASUS H81M-K LGA 1150 Intel H81 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
ram
Newegg.ca - Team Dark 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model TXD38192M1600HC9DC-D
power supply
Newegg.ca - SeaSonic S12II 620 Bronze 620W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
case
Newegg.ca - Corsair Carbide Series 200R Black Steel / Plastic compact ATX Mid Tower Case
GPU Much better than the GTX650 or 270X
Newegg.ca - EVGA 02G-P4-3751-KR GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB 128-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 Video Card
windows 8.1
Newegg.ca - Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-bit - Operating Systems
HD
Newegg.ca - Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive Bare Drive
DVD rom
Newegg.ca - ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - CD / DVD Burners
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Antec 200 - I7-920 - ASUS P6T - Corsair TX650 it's old but still kicking like a mule
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Old 04-06-2014, 05:11 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Just from my current knowledge, you don't need the I7. You would be just as fine with an I5, and you could overclock the I5 to be better than the I7. But anyway, I say go with the second, but see if you could change it to an I5, or the better option, build a PC from scratch. C: Hope I helped!
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Old 04-06-2014, 06:18 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks for all the feedback guys! Much appreciated!

I'm going to check out a few pc building sites and shop around for some of the stuff posted
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Building yourself would be much more fun (not to mention cheaper) .
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Old 04-07-2014, 02:09 AM   #8 (permalink)
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A few things I noticed to save you a little more money would be to forget the blue ray unless you have a use for it but would save you a few $$$$ and the 2 trb HD, If you need that much and store lots of movies and music then it might be worth it but 1 trb would be plenty for most people. I also used 8 gigs of ram but faster ram than the package you posted (1600 vrs the 1333) This all comes to $889.91 and you know what parts are going in instead of them using cheaper brands that may be unreliable.

cpu
Newegg.ca - Intel Core i5-4670 Haswell 3.4GHz LGA 1150 84W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80646I54670
mother board
Newegg.ca - ASUS H81M-K LGA 1150 Intel H81 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
ram
Newegg.ca - Team Dark 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model TXD38192M1600HC9DC-D
power supply
Newegg.ca - SeaSonic S12II 620 Bronze 620W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
case
Newegg.ca - Corsair Carbide Series 200R Black Steel / Plastic compact ATX Mid Tower Case
GPU Much better than the GTX650 or 270X
Newegg.ca - EVGA 02G-P4-3751-KR GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB 128-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 Video Card
windows 8.1
Newegg.ca - Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-bit - Operating Systems
HD
Newegg.ca - Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive Bare Drive
DVD rom
Newegg.ca - ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - CD / DVD Burners
I agree with this rig here except I would get the GTX 760 with the extra cash left over. The 750ti actually isn't that powerful for the type of rig being put together here.

On the other hand to clear something up, the R9 270x actually isn't a bad card. It's 7950 performance which is still damn good these days.
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Old 04-07-2014, 04:59 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Mostly based on pricing I've decided to go with an AMD chipset. Right now my build looks like this: AMD FX-8350, MSI Radeon R9 270X, Antec GX700 - AMD build - rb998's Saved Part List - PCPartPicker Canada

I'm open to suggestions/substitutions, though I already have the case, psu, and hdd due to a sale

Thanks again for all the input!
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The 4670 is faster than the 8350 and with the Asus board combo comes out cheaper than the AMD combo.

Also, since you already purchased the CX500 instead of the previously mentioned Seasonic you're going to need the i5 anyways. The R9 270x and 8350 combo is cutting it extremely close on wattage usage as the CX500 is a budget unit and rated as a peak.
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