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Old 09-03-2008, 12:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm looking to build a new desktop PC and would like to use the 9950BE but I'm having trouble finding a motherboard supporting it out of the box, without bios updates and such. I'm not sure if anyone else is having the same problem but finding a motherboard that supports a 140w cpu is a task in itself.

Are there any boards out there that will work out of the box, preferably even recognizing the 1066 ram immediately.

I plan to run 1 9800gtx+ at first and going SLi so 2x - PCie 2.0 slots are required..

I could run ATi but really prefer Nvidia, and before anyone starts preaching i'm not going intel lol.

If there are any really popular builds using the 9850BE then i would definately be interested.

this is my first complete build so the easier the better, i'm still learning. If anyone has any recommendations please speak up, or if this has been discussed I couldn't find it, so please just post the link. Thanks, Justin.
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Old 09-03-2008, 12:19 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Not sure you're price range but here are a few...

$150
XFX nForce 750a SLI Motherboard - NVIDIA 750a SLI, Socket AM2AM2+, ATX, Audio, Video, HDMI, DVI, PCI Express 2.0, Gigabit LAN. SPDIF, USB 2.0, eSATA, RAID MDA72P7509 at TigerDirect.com

249.99
Asus M3N-HT DeluxeMempipe Motherboard - NVIDIA nForce 780a SLI, Socket AM2+, ATX, Audio, Video, HDMI, PCI Express 2.0, SLI Ready, Gigabit LAN, SPDIF, USB 2.0, eSATA, RAID at TigerDirect.com

or if you're a cheapo, i basically have this exact board and it works great- 99 bucks

Asus M2N-SLI Motherboard - NVIDIA nForce 560 SLI, Socket AM2AM2+, ATX, Audio, PCI Express, Gigabit LAN, SPDIF, USB 2.0, Firewire, Serial ATA, RAID at TigerDirect.com


Edit: 99 dollar one might only support 800 and 1066mhz. not 100%, it's not listed. though I know mine only supports 800mhz which really is plenty
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Old 09-03-2008, 12:50 AM   #3 (permalink)
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the most expensive is the worst of the 3: "Warning - The AMD QuadCore 9950 will NOT work with this motherboard out of the box. You must call ASUS, get an RMA, and ship the board back since the BIOS chip is surface mount and not socketed. I will provide an update when I get mine back."

the XFX boards don't come with SLi bridges, not sure how much they are i've just seen tons of complaints.

and i'm reading on the $100 one right now, thanks

Heres the build thus far(All from Newegg):
HEC Full-Tower Case: $74.99
EVGA 9800GTX+: $199.99
Rosewill 750Watt SLi Ready PSU: $114.99
Phenom 9950BE: $179.99
GeIL Black Dragon 4GB 1066 RAM: 99.90
ASUS Lion Square CPU Cooler: $64.99
Lite-On DVD Burner: $21.99

And for Motherboard I'm considering the ASRock K10N750SLI-WiFi:$139.99
Customer Reviews Of ASRock K10N750SLI-WiFi AM2+/AM2 NVIDIA nForce 750a SLI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

But I can't yet determine if a BIOS update is needed to run the Phenom or not

Doing pretty good so far, the Grand Total is : $896.83 I think I'll have to wait for a monitor til next check, I'm supposed to go the casino on the 6th, I turn 20 on the 5th and that is how i'm buying the computer lol.

My main concern is time, I need the computer to be ordered by the 6th and need it up and running by Warhammer release, my current desktop can't handle it and I'm not going to play it on my laptop all day long lol.

EDIT: that mobo cant run 140watt...
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Old 09-03-2008, 02:09 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Newegg.com - ASUS EAH4850/HTDI/512M Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards

cheaper than the GTX at $153 after MIR.

and the Corsair 750TX PSU is $83
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with the rest of your build change these

620hx psu corsair ( or even a cheaper 550w rosewill (amps are more important that watts, look for about 30+A over the combined 12v rails)
gskill 4g ddr800 PQ ( can get ddr1000 set if u want, but dont need too)
xigmatek rifle 120mm cpu cooler (with tx-2 thermal paste)
also can get 4850 since about the same performance (but nvidia has better game support)

NOTE: ASrock is very bad brand! so ive heard from the people who have them.
as for the mobo, its either a 750a or a 560 sli i guess, sli AMD boards arent the most popular. if u were to go a 4850 then Xfire em you would need a full Xfire board, besides x38/48 i dont know of the good ones.
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I could be reading it wrong, but the Rosewill PSU i chose is originally $165 with a $50 instant rebate ($114.99) and has the specs:
+3.3V@24A,+5V@30A,+12V1@20A,+12V2@20A,
+12V3@20A, +12V4@20A,-12V@0.5A,+5VSB@3A

Sorry but i'm reading a combined 80A over 4 12v rails...but I'm new to this so correct me if i'm wrong.

the Xigmatec Rifle's don't support AM2+ according to newegg...at least the ones they have.

I am now debating getting the ATi card...its kinda nice it only takes up 1 bay, but i've never liked ATi or Intel. I'll definately go ATi before Intel though lol, after all my laptop is running ATi...

If i do choose ATi does anyone know of a board that will work out of the box(without a BIOS flash or update) for the 9950, its looking more and more like i'm going to have to go with the 9850...

So, heres where I'm at right now...I believe everything should work together and out of the box.

Case: HEC 69R5BB Full-Tower: $74.99
Motherboard: MSI DKA790GX Platinum: $159.99
PSU: Rosewill RX750-D-B 750W: $114.99
Processor: AMD Phenom 9950BE: $179.99
CPU Cooler: ASUS Lion Square: $64.99
Thermal Compound: Tuniq TX-2: $3.79
RAM: OCZ Platinum 4GB: $109.99
GPU: ASUS Radeon HD4850: $182.99(before $30 Mail-In-Rebate)
HD: WD 160GB: $41.99
Burner: Lite-On DVD Burner: $21.99

The Motherboard is Out of Stock til about 9/8 it says...but running total without shipping is $955.70

Any changes anyone?
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Old 09-03-2008, 03:56 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I could be reading it wrong, but the Rosewill PSU i chose is originally $165 with a $50 instant rebate ($114.99) and has the specs:
+3.3V@24A,+5V@30A,+12V1@20A,+12V2@20A,
+12V3@20A, +12V4@20A,-12V@0.5A,+5VSB@3A

Sorry but i'm reading a combined 80A over 4 12v rails...but I'm new to this so correct me if i'm wrong.
True but a single rail is better and the corsair 750TX is $30 cheaper.
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The corsair 750TX is a rock solid psu. I ran a q6600 at 1.5v and 2 9800gx2's with no issues on mine.
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two things:
1) xfx boards do come with SLI bridges.
2) the xigmatex s1283 is compatible with AM2+. it is copmpatible with AM2, therefore it is compatible with AM2+.
ok, wait here is a third:
3) the corsair PSU is better.
okay one more:
4) there is no way i would put a phenom 9950 in that asus 560 SLI mobo...even if it does support it, of which i am STRONGLY doubtful.

pretty good rig ya got there for 1000 bucks.
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That XFX board I posted is bad *** lol...
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