now just letting you know...you don't necessarily need a black edition because it has a higher clock speed. If you're confident enough to learn how to overclock, you can choose a lower clocked phenom, and save money. Then, just buy a descent CPU cooler and overclock it to (most likely) the clock of a 965 BE, possibly even higher. That's always an option. The OEM phenom II X4 is only $117. Plus it's fun to learn more custom building techniques (well, at least for me since I'm a geek
). I bought a phenom X6, the 2.8GHz one, and overclocked it to ~4.2GHz. but of course I have watercooling, so that's why i can OC so high, even higher I'm sure.