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Old 08-11-2006, 01:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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ive been saving up money to be able to completely overhaul my system. my current comp isnt anything special. it gets the job doen and can play recent games at decent settings and what not but im just to the point to where im just saving money to buy a whole new system. i was think of getting this motherboard:

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...727&CatId=1569

to start off with. now at first i was confused on what kind of cpu i should buy. wondering if i should get a dual core or just a really good single core. the thing is i dont really know how to tell which is better.I was think in of somethin along the lines of a AMD Athlon 64 x2 3800. this again is just off the top of my head looking at the price and goin along with the compatibility of my motherboard i have in mind. Then i read a post in this forum about some one confused on matching up the memory with cpu, he had put a whole list of equatioins out and i realized i think itd be wise to keep the type and amount of memory related to the processor which leaves me not knowing what kind of memory i should get, or what kind of cpu i should get to match up with better memory. im completely criss crossed and am not sure what to get now. i want my comp to specialize in gaming and so far everything ive decided to buy id like to keep it along the $200 line or less. of course that doesnt always happen. if anybody can help straighten everything out and give me some suggestions as to what is the more " efficient" combinations of parts to buy itd be a whole lotta help. any advice is greatly appreciated. thanks alot in adavance!
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Here's how you can help us help you. We know that you want this computer to be for gaming. What's your total budget for this system? I hope it's not the $200 you mentioned, because there's just no such thing as a $200 gaming system.

We can work with low figures, though. You could get something decent for $350 or $400, I'd say.

To answer a couple questions:

If you plan on doing gaming on a budget system, I'd suggest one of the Athlon 64 processors. The price just got cut pretty low, and they're quite fast on single processes.

Anyways, let us know what the budget is so we can suggest a configuration.

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Oh-- and also, let us know what you have already.
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yea yea sorry bout all that. i always realize i forgot somethin after i post it. but yea here it is. when i said $200 range i didnt mean for the whole comp. i meant for each part. like ill spend around 200 in the graphics card and then arounbd another 200 on the cpu and so on......k? sorry bout that. and i dont see how what i have right now is relevant cause im gonna be selling all of it once i get a new system. when i meant new system i meant a WHOLE NEW system.specifically everything will be new excpet for the hard drive and case and dvd-rom drive. new mobo, gpu, cpu, etc. and dont think so much as this bein a " budget " system. i dont want that to limit the advice i get here. just please dont tell me to go and spend $500 on the best gpu out right now and then $600 on a really good cpu. be reasonable about it.sorry bout the confusion.
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i wouldn't base the cpu descision on what motherboard you want. that should be the other way around. decide on a cpu, then look for a compatible mobo.
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Go less than $200 on CPU mobo and ram, and go $300 for video card. You will get a lot better results. I really don't understand why you would want to limit yourself sectionally like that, just tell us your total budget and we will build you the best possible system.

What you have now is relevent because you could save money by using some parts you already have, for instance, a DVD-burner or something.

Do you need keyboard, monitor and mouse included in this build?

EDIT: Wow, WTF? You won't tell us what you have already, but you say you want a WHOLE NEW system, then continue on to say you'll be reusing the harddrive dvd player and case?

I'm done here.


One last thing:

Limiting yourself to $200 per item is like old people who ONLY drive 35 miles per hour. It's way to fast in parking lots, and way to slow on the free way.
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All right, that makes a lot more sense. Based on that, I'm going to set a target figure of $1000.

Athlon 64 X2 4400+ -- very good for overclocking
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103546
235.00

ASUS A8N5X Socket 939
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131569
79.99

Patriot 1GB (2x512mb) RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820220060
92.99

Geforce 7800GTX OC Overclocked 256MB PCI-Ex16
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814143036
379.99

2x Seagate 120GB HD's for RAID 0 config
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148106
119.98

THERMALTAKE TR2 500W Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153028
79.99

With shipping that's about 1k. I'll leave you to do your own case shopping-- just make sure it fits your mobo. You could do fun things with this system.

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BTW, I know you said you wanted to use your old HD, but I'd encourage you to use those ones. Between the new interface and the RAID configuration, it will be about twice as fast as you've got now, and hard drives are often a major bottleneck.

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Dunno about that system you recommended.

A 7800GTX? Why would he want that for all that money when he could get a 7900GT KO?

Also I would suggest a lanparty ultra-d for overclocking...nothing matches it.

...also...thermaltake PSU's aren't that great....and if he is going to be overclocking I would get 2 x 1 gb of some GOOD overclocking RAM...not crappy Patriot memory.
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V-Card-- you're right, I keep forgetting that new products come out.

Lanparty=buggy. I know they're great performers, but I always have so many problems with them. I just can't recommend them anymore.

PSU--nope, I've used that one and it's great. Handled a pair of 7800GTX's like a charm with a Pentium D processor.

Memory--Once again, I've used it several times and it works like a charm. Obviously he's not going to hardcore on the OCing here, since his technical knowledge doesn't seem to extend too far. But certainly to push the system to its max, go with GSkill or Corsair or something.

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