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Old 07-07-2015, 08:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi I just purchased the new version of the origin eon17x. I put two ssd's in it (Samsung Evo) but I didn't put the two available options for m.2 Sata drives. Since I have received the laptop yet I'm wondering if that's easy to put in or is m.2 Sata different?? Would appreciate any help thanks.

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M.2 is a different form factor and comes in PCI-E and SATA flavors. If you already have two Samsung EVOs I don't really see the point in loading it with M.2 as well.
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Old 07-07-2015, 09:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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They made it seem like the m.2 hard drives would load games faster. Honestly I don't know. I have a 500 gig and a 1 tb ssd also.

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Who is they?

PCI-E M.2 drives are definitely faster but odds have it you won't notice a difference at all. Not until everybody goes NVMe standard.
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Well I don't need one right away but I'll prob put the Samsung 850 pro m.2 Sata 3 in it soon lol

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Well I don't need one right away but I'll prob put the Samsung 850 pro m.2 Sata 3 in it soon lol

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No point. You'll get the same performance since it's the same hardware.
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Then I probably won't bother.... Thanks for the advice

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Just to give you a little edumucation on it in case Googling might be confusing.

There are 2 types of SSD on the M.2 setup right now (not getting into the notches or lengths). You have SATA and PCI-E.

SATA M.2 is simply the same thing you'd find in your typical 2.5" SSD. Uses the same basic hardware and gives the exact same performance. It also utilizes a SATA slot on your board making one SATA port unuseable.

PCI-E on the other hand uses a different controller and enhances the speed. For instance, my M.2 SSD is PCI-E and my reads are over 1GB/s and writes somewhere around 700MB/s. It also does not use up a SATA port as the data transfer is direct to PCI-E.
With PCI-E you also have the difference between Gen 2 and 3, and 2x vs 4x speeds. Obviously like with other PCI-E cards the faster it is, more bandwidth can be had, and gives way for faster SSD speeds.

Now the big game changer is NVMe vs AHCI. AHCI is a very old standard made for platter drives and hampers the performance capabilities of flash based storage. Enter NVMe which was designed exclusively for PCI-E flash storage (basically) and really opens up the speed capabilities.

In all reality though, it's IOPS that make a huge difference in perceivable performance differences. How fast your 4k write and read speeds are on an SSD will make a noticeable improvement on Windows performance. Raw sequential speeds are pretty much only good for fast data transfers once you get to a certain speed.
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Yes that's what I needed to hear. Thank-you. I was looking this somewhat up and I saw some of the things you just said online, but that cleared it together a lot better.

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Hey you seem to really know your stuff... If like to learn some information on graphics cards in general. Like I said I have the 980m with 8 gigs of gpu ram. I haven't gotten the computer yet (waiting on shipping) but I feel like I'll be good for a good while. My concern is I was reading a thread and they were talking about gm204 and Cuda cores. I can follow but I truly don't know what those actually are. In turns of performance and what's old style to new standards. Would love to hear all about what you know on this topic.

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