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Old 04-07-2008, 08:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default I want a new video card.

And I need some professional help.

My mom is on her way home with a power supply that I bought awhile back (a year or so, left it at my uncles) I'm almost certain it'll work with this setup it's 450 or 500 some Watts.

Anyway, I want to know if I can handle this card.

Newegg.com - EVGA 512-P3-N861-AR GeForce 9600GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics





If I can't, can you recommend anything? Any other cheap ideas I can do to spice up my PC when I buy something? (like add a fan somewhere or something, I know I need to dust it :P)
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Welcome to Tech-Forums!!!

The 9600GT should work well. What type of games are you looking to play, and at what resolution on the monitor?

And what is the brand of this power supply, that you're getting?
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9600gt is fine, might be somewhat of a bottleneck, but thats only at super high resolutions
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1024x768 on a normal sized CRT monitor (18-20, people say it's pretty big, but it's not huge)

I don't know the brand, I'll update it when she returns (an hour or so) I know I bought it at best buy for like 60-70 bucks a year or so ago. I'm certain it'll power my mobo because I originally bought it to have the 20+4 pin setup.

Also, I'm a hardcore gamer.

I'm looking to be playing Assassin's Creed, Mass Effect, Call of Duty 4 (higher frames), Age of Conan, Crysis, the works. Anything new and shiny.
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The 9600GT will chew games up on that resolution.

I was asking the brand, because I wanted to know if it's a quality brand or not.
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Have fun with your new card, it will defiantly perform like a beast at that resolution. Even crysis.

I am also looking forward to Assassins creed release for the pc on my b-day
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Well, she just got home.
Not what I expected either.

A DYNEX 350 Watt Power supply:
DYNEX DX-PS350W 350 WATT 350 WATT ATX CPU POWER SUPPLY

Got a **** of a lot cheaper in a year, think this will run the new video card? or am I going to need one of those too? If so, I need a really cheap one, I'm already pushing my budget =]
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A cheap brand power supply, no matter how much wattage it has, is a big no no. I would suggest this:
Newegg.com - FSP Group SAGA+ 400R ATX12V 400W Power Supply 120/220 - 240v NEMKO, TUV, CSA, IEC, UL, CE - Power Supplies

Even the one you have now, which seems to be an FSP Group, is a better brand.
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Newegg.com - APEVIA ATX-CW500WP4 ATX 500W Power Supply 115/ 230 V UL, CSA, TUV, CE - Power Supplies

This look good? I figured I'd jump to 500 if I ever planned on going larger. Also it has 2 fans, and 2 12v rails.
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Apevia PSU's are the worse (refer to the Power Supply Guide)

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Guide to buying a Power supply. Updated As Of: 4/5/2008
( Model or type ) after Brand will indicate specific models or comments.

High End Workstations or servers, (This includes Multi Proccessor stations, data/web Servers or Video Studios/workshops)
Apevia (Warlock 900W)
ABS Tagan (ITZ1300 1300w )
Antec (TruePower Quattro 850 Watt)
Cooler Master (Real Power Pro 1000 Watt)
Silver Power (GuardianX SP-1000E)
Super micro
EPower (Xscale 1200 Watt)
Enlight
Enhance
Corsair
PC power and Cooling
Zippy
Etasis
Enermax (Noisetaker and Galaxy Series)
Ultra (X3 1000 Watt)
Zumax (950 Watt X4)

High End Gaming Computers, ( This includes CrossFire, Sli, phase change cooling/Water Cooling and or Heavy overclocking of RAM, CPU and Video Card(s) )
Apevia (Warlock 900W)
ABS Tagan (ITZ1300 1300w )
Antec (TruePower Quattro 850 Watt)
BeQuiet! (Dark Power Pro Models)
PC Power and cooling
Silverstone (Zeus models ST56ZF, ST75ZF, and ST85ZF)
Silver Power (GuardianX SP-1000E)
Seasonic (S-12, S-12E+, M-12 )
Corsair
Cooler Master (Real Power Pro 1000 Watt)
Etasis
Enhance
EPower (Xscale 1200 Watt)
Enermax (Infiniti 720W)
Enlight
Gigabyte (Odin GT)
Zippy
Zumax (950 Watt X4)
Enermax (Noisetaker Series)
Thermaltake (Tough Power series only)
Xclio (850W, Enhance Buil, Stable And GreatPower Models)
Fortron (FSP)
OCZ Technologies (Excluding Early ModStream Models and GameStream 700 Watt Model)
Ultra (X3 Models Only, 1000 Watt)
Zalman (ZM600-HP)

High to Medium End Gaming or workstation PC's, (This includes High end video cards (Single) and moderate to high overclocking)
Antec
BeQuiet! (Dark Power Pro Models)
Enermax (NoiseTaker And Infiniti 720W)
OCZ Technology (Excluding Early ModStream Models and GameStream 700 Watt Model)
Fortron (FSP)
Hiper (Type M and Type R Only, 670 and 730 Watts)
Seasonic
Sunbeam (NUUO 550W)
Silverstone
Gigabyte (Odin GT)
Rosewill (Xtreme Series)
PC Power and Cooling
Corsair
I-Star
Tagan (Except EasyCon 530 Watt)
Sparkle
Enhance
ThermalTake (ToughPower Line Only)
Vantec
Xclio (850W, Enhance Built, Stable And GreatPower Models)
Ultra (X Finity, X3's Models, X Pro)
Mushkin (Excluding HP-550 Model)
Coolermaster (Real Power Series only)
Fortron (FSP)
Zalman (ZM600-HP)

Medium to Low End Gaming machines.
Antec
AeroCool (Silver Line 550 Watt)
BeQuiet! (Dark Power Pro Models)
Enermax
Coolmax (Green Line and Taurus Series)
Ultra (X Finity, X3's Models, X Pro)
Hiper (Type R and Type M only)
Mushkin (Excluding HP-550 Model)
Sunbeam (NUUO 550W)
Fortron (FSP)
Inwin (FSP Models Only)
CoolerMaster (Real Power Series Only)
OCZ Technologies ( Excluding Early ModStream Models and GameStream 700 Watt Model)
xClio (Stable And GreatPower Models)

Absolute Low End Builds or You're A Cheapskate.
ThermalTake
Fortron (FSP)
Coolmax (Green Line And Taurus Series)
Sunbeam
AOpen
AeroCool (Silver Line 550 Watt)
Enhance (ENP-5140GH)
Zalman
Nexus
Sparkle
Rosewill
Inwin (FSP Models only)
Power-Man (FSP models only)
Raidmax (Topower and Tagan Models only)

The simple version: (Power supply brands will be listed From best to Acceptable in Desending order, Many brands will not be mentioned)
Super Micro
PC Power and cooling
Etasis
Zippy
Seasonic
Corsair
Silverstone
Enhance
Coolermaster( High Wattage and Real Power Models Only)
OCZ Technologies ( Excluding Early ModStream Models and GameStream 700 Watt Model)
Tagan (Except EasyCon 530 Watt)
Enermax
Fortron (FSP)
Antec
Mushkin (Excluding HP-550 Model)
Hiper (Type R and Type M only)

Best Bang For Your Buck Honorable Mentions
AeroCool Silver Line 550 Watt
Corsair 450VX
Corsair 520HX
Enhance ENP-5140GH
Rosewill RP500-2
PC Power & Cooling Silencer (470 Watt)
COOLER MASTER eXtreme RP-500
SILVERSTONE ST400
FSP Group FX600-GLN
FSP Group FX700-GLN
ENERMAX Noisetaker II EG701AX
XCLIO GREATPOWER X14S4P3 (550 Watt)

Ste's Picks
PC Power & Cooling Silencer 610 (All PC Power and Cooling Products as well, they all have long warranties..)
Corsair 520HX (520 Watt)
Enlight Sniper 5604724 (650 Watt)
SeaSonic S12 Energy Plus SS-550HT (550 Watt)
ETASIS ET750 (750 Watt)
SILVERSTONE SST-ST75ZF (750 watt)

Top Single 12V Railed Power Supplies
All PC Power And Cooling Power Supplies (They don't screw around..)
Silverstone (1200 Watt, 1000 Watt, 850 Watt, 800 Watt, 750 Watt, 650 Watt And 560 Watt)
Corsair (750TX, 650TX, 550VX And 450VX)
Rosewill (RP550)

Explanation: Qouted right from PC Power And Cooling: Power Supply Myths Exposed!
"With all the hype about multiple 12-volt rails (ads claim that two rails is better than one, five is better than four, etc.), you'd think it was a better design. Unfortunately, it's not!

Here are the facts: A large, single 12-volt rail (without a 240VA limit) can transfer 100% of the 12-volt output from the PSU to the computer, while a multi-rail 12-volt design has distribution losses of up to 30% of the power supply's rating. Those losses occur because power literally gets "trapped" on under-utilized rails. For example, if the 12-volt rail that powers the CPU is rated for 17 amps and the CPU only uses 7A, the remaining 10A is unusable, since it is isolated from the rest of the system.

Since the maximum current from any one 12-volt rail of a multiple-rail PSU is limited to 20 amps (240VA / 12 volts = 20 amps), PCs with high-performance components that draw over 20 amps from the same rail are subject to over-current shutdowns. With power requirements for multiple processors and graphics cards continuing to grow, the multiple-rail design, with its 240VA limit per rail, is basically obsolete."

Some things you never knew about PC Power & Cooling!!

Brands to Avoid
Achieve
Aerocool (Except Silver Line 550 Watt, For Only Low And Medium End Builds)
Allied
Apex
Arrow
Aspire
Austin
Apevia ( Except Warlock 900W )
Codegen
Coolmax ( Except Green Line and Taurus Series)
Demon
Deer
Duro
Dynapower
Eagle
EagleTech
EPower (Except Xscale 1200 Watt)
Foxlink
Gigabyte (Except Odin GT)
Hercules
InWin ( Except FSP models)
JustPC
JEANTECH
Key Mouse
Kingwin
L&C
Logic
Linkworld
Macron Power
MGE
Mustang
NorthQ
Okia
Power-Man ( Except FSP models)
Powmax
Power-Up
Powerstar
QMax
Qtec
q-tec
Raidmax ( Except Topower/Tagan models, not sold with cases)
Silver Power (Except GuardianX SP-1000E)
SunBeam (Except NUUO Models)
Tagan (Only EasyCon 530 Watt)
TMP-ANS
Tsunami
Turbo
Turbolink
Ultra ( Except X Finity, X3's Models And X Pro)
Zumax (Except 950 Watt X4)

Information consolodated and summarized from the following sources:
http://forums.overclockersclub.com/?...ckersclub.com/
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Tom's Hardware
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