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Old 08-13-2008, 03:05 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Ok I'll go with 4 gigs of RAM and the best Intel Core 2 Quad I can get, now the only decision left is ATI or NVIDIA. I need about a month to get the rest of the money, so I have some time to decide...

If I go with NVIDIA, I'm not sure when I'll be willing to buy another card (GTX260), but if I go with ATI, I'll probably get another one soon. Computer Power User magazine said that one 4870 was close to GTX260 on their tests, and two were even better...
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HD 4870 is more powerful in most cases, except Crysis here and there and some other places...
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Old 08-13-2008, 03:18 PM   #13 (permalink)
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wait, so you already have a gtx260? if so just use that and buy another. if not and u want to go SLI with nvidia the 9800GTX+ are reasonably priced and do really well in SLI. and then theres the gtx280 which is the best single gpu card out there.
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Old 08-13-2008, 03:21 PM   #14 (permalink)
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If you plan to get Nvidia then I recommend this video card because it cost only $249.99 after MIR

Newegg.com - BFG Tech BFGEGTX260896E GeForce GTX 260 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards
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^he can't order from newegg dude.
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I stated at the beginning that I'm not from US and can't order form Newegg. In fact, I can't order online because I'm not even sure it will ship to my country. I will buy the case, ram and HDDs now, and leave some time to decide what I'm going to do with the rest (I need some time to get the rest of the money anyway). I'm probably not going to buy GTX280, so I need to choose between 4870 and GTX260. Also, I'm pretty sure that I'll buy another 4870 later, if I go with ATI, but I'm not sure I'll be willing to give money for another GTX260, if I choose GTX260 now...
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if you like playing with lots of AA i would choose the 4870...or ideally the 4870x2.
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Why would you not buy another gtx260, if ud buy another 4870. I'd seriously reccomend going with the 9800GTX+ in SLI mode. give that a looksy

Here is kind of an old thread but it compares SLI and Crossfire


3DMarks: Two HD 3870 cards are definitely more effective than two 8800GT cards in all Futuremark tests.This extra efficiency also makes the Crossfire post higher scores than two 8800GT cards in SLI making AMD the clear winner.

CoH - Opposing Fronts: Moving on to our first game, the SLI setup has a clear advantage over the Crossfire setup posting higher efficiency and thus higher scores as the 8800GT is faster than the HD3870 in single card mode.

Crysis: Crysis prefers nVidia cards in single and SLI modes. The efficiency of two 8800GTs in SLI is no match for Crossfire in Crysis making nVidia the card of choice for this game.

ET- Quake Wars: The Quake Engine scales very well under SLI as well as Crossfire tilting slightly in favor of Crossfire. However, the slight advantage for AMD is not enough to match the raw power of the 8800GT which posts much higher scores.

F.E.A.R. Like Quake Wards, F.E.A.R. also scales well under both SLI and Crossfire setups, however, it tilts slightly in SLI's favor. That, combined with the higher scores of 8800GT make it a faster on nVidia's GPUs.

Half Life 2- Episode 2: No real surprises here as AMD has been heavily promoting Half Life 2 under their camp and although the differences are higher at lower resoluiotn/settings, the efficiency between SLI and Crossfire is pretty close at 1920x1200 with 4X AA. Because of this, the Crossfire setup loses at this particular resolution and detail but manages to keep up or takeover the nVidia in other tests thus making it the winner.

Lost Planet - Extreme Condition: Again, Crossfire proves to me no match for SLI which posts much higher efficiencies across all resolutions/details. Adding to that the raw horsepower provided by single cards, Lost Planet is certainly a game you'd want to play on the 8800GT.

S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Things take a turn in Crossfire's favor with S.T.A.L.K.E.R. where it posts higher efficiencies, especially towards the lower resolution and details. Unfortunately, this still doesn't allow the Crossfire setup to post faster scores than the SLI setup.

Unreal Tournament 3: Again, we see Crossfire posting higher efficiency at lower resolution/details and this time around, the difference is enough to make it faster than an SLI setup at lower resolution/details but as we crank these two up, SLI manages to take over.

Word in Conflict: Ending up our games, Crossfire takes the lead in efficiency which also makes it post higher scores than an SLI setup even at high resolution/details.

As you can see, when the settings are cranked up and the resolution is, SLI outperforms Crossfire.
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personally I like the reviews of the 9800GTX+ cards, check into those. looking at all your clock speeds there, do you're own math. you are looking for memory, core clock speeds, streaming processors, and the memory bandwidth. figure out what cards/setups would be best, research how each card operates in sli/crossfire. figure that then come to your decision. for best way to compare the numbers, go to neweggs site. I know, you can't order, but you can compare that way. good luck!@
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Why would you not buy another gtx260, if ud buy another 4870. I'd seriously reccomend going with the 9800GTX+ in SLI mode. give that a looksy

Here is kind of an old thread but it compares SLI and Crossfire


3DMarks: Two HD 3870 cards are definitely more effective than two 8800GT cards in all Futuremark tests.This extra efficiency also makes the Crossfire post higher scores than two 8800GT cards in SLI making AMD the clear winner.

CoH - Opposing Fronts: Moving on to our first game, the SLI setup has a clear advantage over the Crossfire setup posting higher efficiency and thus higher scores as the 8800GT is faster than the HD3870 in single card mode.

Crysis: Crysis prefers nVidia cards in single and SLI modes. The efficiency of two 8800GTs in SLI is no match for Crossfire in Crysis making nVidia the card of choice for this game.

ET- Quake Wars: The Quake Engine scales very well under SLI as well as Crossfire tilting slightly in favor of Crossfire. However, the slight advantage for AMD is not enough to match the raw power of the 8800GT which posts much higher scores.

F.E.A.R. Like Quake Wards, F.E.A.R. also scales well under both SLI and Crossfire setups, however, it tilts slightly in SLI's favor. That, combined with the higher scores of 8800GT make it a faster on nVidia's GPUs.

Half Life 2- Episode 2: No real surprises here as AMD has been heavily promoting Half Life 2 under their camp and although the differences are higher at lower resoluiotn/settings, the efficiency between SLI and Crossfire is pretty close at 1920x1200 with 4X AA. Because of this, the Crossfire setup loses at this particular resolution and detail but manages to keep up or takeover the nVidia in other tests thus making it the winner.

Lost Planet - Extreme Condition: Again, Crossfire proves to me no match for SLI which posts much higher efficiencies across all resolutions/details. Adding to that the raw horsepower provided by single cards, Lost Planet is certainly a game you'd want to play on the 8800GT.

S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Things take a turn in Crossfire's favor with S.T.A.L.K.E.R. where it posts higher efficiencies, especially towards the lower resolution and details. Unfortunately, this still doesn't allow the Crossfire setup to post faster scores than the SLI setup.

Unreal Tournament 3: Again, we see Crossfire posting higher efficiency at lower resolution/details and this time around, the difference is enough to make it faster than an SLI setup at lower resolution/details but as we crank these two up, SLI manages to take over.

Word in Conflict: Ending up our games, Crossfire takes the lead in efficiency which also makes it post higher scores than an SLI setup even at high resolution/details.

As you can see, when the settings are cranked up and the resolution is, SLI outperforms Crossfire.
True... but we're talking HD 4800's now, but still the advantages are there for what I said still applied back then... true HD 3870's didn't beat the 8800gt, but it still had all those edges at the top mentioned. However the 9600gt's came out and did 70% SLI scaling, better than the HD 3870's
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