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Old 11-30-2008, 11:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok first off, I wanted to start by saying I just joined these forums because I'm very excited in building my very own PC for the first time. I do have a decent amount of Computer knowledge but there is a lot of things I don't know.

I have $1500 that Im going to put into my rig and I want to make sure I get the most bang for the money I'm spending. So please give me some recommendations and tell me what you think on the parts I already chose.

Take a look:
Tower:APEVIA X-CRUISER-BK/420 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower 95$
PowerSupply:CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W $105
CPU:AMD Phenom™ X4 9950 BE $170
CPU Cooler:ZALMAN CNPS 9700 NT 110mm 2 Ball Ultra Quiet CPU $66
MotherBoard:Asus M3A79-T Deluxe 790FX $189
Memory(Ram):Corsair Dominator TWIN2X2048-8500C5D $52
Video Card:SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 4870 1GB $265
Hard Drive: Two Seagate Barracuda 250GB (RAID-0) $110
Data Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar 640 GB $70
Optical Drive:LG Black Blu-ray/HD DVD-ROM & 16X DVD±R DVD Burner $150
Sound:Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer $91
Network Card:Intel PWLA8391GT 10/ 100/ 1000Mbps $24

TOTAL: $1387

Ok, so I still have some money left and I'm missing a couple of things too like speakers,monitor,keyboard,and mouse. Is there anything else that that Im missing aswell? Could I do better with the money I have?


PS: I accidentally posted this in the General Computer Forums but since I'm trying to build a gaming rig I'm re posting it here so there is no confusion.
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Old 12-01-2008, 07:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You can do better actually.. if you don't mind using Intel, it'd be a good bit faster and will overclock better..

Drop the Network Card, onboard Gigabit eThernet is good enough and is the same speed..

Maybe get the X-Fi XtremeMusic instead of the gamer since I've heard its better (even for gaming)

Drop the Zalman cooler for the Core Contact Cooler, and the Phenom and its board for a e8500 and a Biostar I45

Instead of buying the Apevia X-Cruiser for $94 with the crappy Apevia PSU, just get the cheap $70 PSU that comes with a rebate, since its cheaper and you don't need their PSU because you have one
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wait so what case should I buy instead?

I heard Nvidia was more reliable than ATI should i switch companies? if so wich Nvidia card should I go with?
oh and I cant find X-Fi XtremeMusic on newegg, is there another name for it?
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Nah, most of it is based on past premonitions..

Both are equal right now..

Based on your price I assumed you wanted this:
Newegg.com - APEVIA X-CRUISER-BK/420 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 420W Power Supply - Computer Cases

but I'm saying get this:
Newegg.com - APEVIA X-CRUISER-BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Computer Cases
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What about a cooling syatem? do i ave to by those stupid liquid cooling systems?

And Im using two seagate 250 gb for gaming and a Western Digital 640 GB for data, Is this possible even though there both different companies?

Also I think its cheaper to get two 9800GT's 512mb than a HD 4870 1gb

If I run the Nvidia's will t equal the radeon card? thanks!

btw thanks for your replies. You know I was browsing these forums before I joined and I was hoping you would respond to mine.
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What about a cooling syatem? do i ave to by those stupid liquid cooling systems?

And Im using two seagate 250 gb for gaming and a Western Digital 640 GB for data, Is this possible even though there both different companies?

Also I think its cheaper to get two 9800GT's 512mb than a HD 4870 1gb

If I run the Nvidia's will t equal the radeon card? thanks!

btw thanks for your replies. You know I was browsing these forums before I joined and I was hoping you would respond to mine.
You can still do that...

Don't get liquid cooling on a first build...

Its cheaper andbetter performing but you'll have to live with an SLI Chipset and the heat issues that come with dual cards
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Ok so im guissing that the case Im buying comes with fans already.

What would you recommend for speakers and a monitor?

Tower:APEVIA X-CRUISER-BK/420 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower 70$
PowerSupply:CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W $105
CPU:Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 $175
CPU Cooler:Sunbeam "Core Contact Freezer" $40
MotherBoard: Biostar I45 $160
Memory(Ram):4GB G-Skill $50
Video Card:SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 4870 1GB $265
Hard Drive: Two Seagate Barracuda 250GB (RAID-0) $110
Data Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar 640 GB $70
Optical Drive:LG Black Blu-ray/HD DVD-ROM & 16X DVD±R DVD Burner $150
Sound:Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer $91
UPDATED TOTAL: $1312
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Well if I were to spend $1500 on a build I think I would allocate the money a little differently.

For example, I would skip the Raid 0 Barracuda drives. Sure things will load a little bit faster but you are spending a lot of money to shave some seconds off a windows boot up.

Also, if you plan on hooking this rig up to your TV and are using it as a Blu-ray player I guess it makes since to get the Blu-ray drive. Otherwise I think you may be wasting money here too. You can save a load of money just getting a Dvdr drive and once Blu-rays become more mainstream you will be able to pick these up cheap for an easy upgrade.

With the money you've saved you could either buy yourself a nice monitor and the rest of those extras you mentioned. Or you may also want to consider putting together an i7 rig.

Anyways that's just my 2 cents.
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i7 cost a lot of money I wouldn't be able to get much else.
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Ok so im guissing that the case Im buying comes with fans already.

What would you recommend for speakers and a monitor?

Tower:APEVIA X-CRUISER-BK/420 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower 70$
PowerSupply:CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W $105
CPU:Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 $175
CPU Cooler:Sunbeam "Core Contact Freezer" $40
MotherBoard: Biostar I45 $160
Memory(Ram):4GB G-Skill $50
Video Card:SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 4870 1GB $265
Hard Drive: Two Seagate Barracuda 250GB (RAID-0) $110
Data Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar 640 GB $70
Optical Drive:LG Black Blu-ray/HD DVD-ROM & 16X DVD±R DVD Burner $150
Sound:Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer $91
UPDATED TOTAL: $1312
Much better, if you want a good monitor, check out any HDCP capable monitor.. 24'' or 22'' because of the high end GPU you already have..
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