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Old 03-22-2006, 12:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello, now, I'm building a high end gaming computer, my budget is roughly $6,000 , more or less. I was wondering if you had any suggestions/additions on my current component list, I most likely will be overclocking, tell me what you think though (layout might be a bit sloppy, excuse me) :

Monitor:
SONY SDM-P234/B Black and Silver 23" 16ms Widescreen LCD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824006084

Case:
Thermaltake Kandalf Series VA9000SWA Silver
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811133153

Power Supply:
PC Power & Cooling Turbo-Cool 1KW 1000W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817703003

Motherboard:
DFI LANPARTY UT NF4 SLI-DR Venus
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813136008

Processor: AMD Athlon 64 FX60 Dual-Core http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103608

Memory:
Corsair XMS 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR 400 Dual Channel Kit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145028

Graphics card:
BFG Tech 7900GTX 512MB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814143047

Hard Disk:
1 x Western Digital Raptor X 150GB 10,000 RPM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136011

1 x Western Digital Caviar SE16 500GB 7,200 RPM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136014
(Reference links only, buying new.)

Sound Card:
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeMusic http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16829102188

Optical Drive:
Plextor DVD-R PX-716AL/SW http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827131352

Printer:
Canon i9900 InkJet Photo Color Printer
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16828102142

Cooling:
DangerDen, CPU/HD, full custom kit (opinions?)

Speakers:
Creative Labs GigaWorks S750 7.1 Speaker System http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16836116142

Mouse:
Microsoft 2-Tone Mouse (laser[yes, simple, but would work fine for my gaming needs])
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16826105128

Keyboard: [currently have]
Ideazon Zboard Gaming Keyboard PW1USE1-B3ZBD01 (using standard keyset)
http://www.directron.com/pw1use1b3zbd01.html

Surge Protector:
Belkin 'The Isolator'
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812120208
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Old 03-22-2006, 12:55 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Nice build, but DO NOT get 4 GB of ram. That will basically slow down your system. Also, for a 6 grand build, I would get an FX 60. and a better graphics card, maybe the 7900 GTX or ATI x1900xtx. Be sure to get a nice soundcard, like the xfi xtrememusic. - Charlie
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Old 03-22-2006, 12:57 AM   #3 (permalink)
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ah yes, knew I was forgetting something, the processor, glad you reminded me before I went ordering, hah, I did decide on that first off, editing now.

edit: P.S. I don't know if you've had any experience with this particular mobo, or if that would even matter, but is there any significant advantage to a seperate sound card VS the onboard variant other than sound quality?
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[COLOR=\"Red\"]PSU:[/COLOR][COLOR=\"Black\"] PCP&C 1kW EPS12V[/COLOR]
[COLOR=\"Red\"]Motherboard:[/COLOR][COLOR=\"Black\"] ASUS P5NSLI[/COLOR][COLOR=\"Blue\"] (Yeah, I know!)[/COLOR]
[COLOR=\"Red\"]Processor:[/COLOR][COLOR=\"Black\"] Retail Core 2 Duo X6800[/COLOR][COLOR=\"Blue\"] Week 26/B2[/COLOR]
[COLOR=\"Red\"]RAM:[/COLOR][COLOR=\"Black\"] 2x1GB OCZ Platinum Rev.2 DDR2-800[/COLOR]
[COLOR=\"Red\"]VGA:[/COLOR][COLOR=\"Black\"] 1x eVGA 7950GX2[/COLOR]
[COLOR=\"Red\"]Sound Card:[/COLOR][COLOR=\"Black\"] SB X-Fi XM[/COLOR]
[COLOR=\"Red\"]HDD:[/COLOR][COLOR=\"Black\"] 2x Raptor 150GB in RAID 0/1x 500GB WD Caviar[/COLOR]
[COLOR=\"Red\"]Optical:[/COLOR][COLOR=\"Black\"] Plextor DVD-R DL PX-716AL[/COLOR]
[COLOR=\"Red\"]Speakers:[/COLOR][COLOR=\"Black\"] Logitech z-5500[/COLOR]
[COLOR=\"Red\"]Fans:[/COLOR][COLOR=\"Black\"] 9x YL D12SM-12[/COLOR]
[COLOR=\"Lime\"]Water-Cooling:[/COLOR][COLOR=\"Black\"] MCP355 w/AlphaCool top/PA120.3/AQX MP-05 SP LE/Silverprop Cyclone NexusSX chipset block[/COLOR]
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Old 03-22-2006, 01:03 AM   #4 (permalink)
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get a pc power and cooling PSU instead, case is a personal opinion but i like the kandalf and shark series better than the Xaser 3 to be honest, get this board http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16813131568, or a DFI, get 2 gig of mushkin or ocz if you plan on overclocking or jsut 2 gig corsair, but *dont* get 4,
also get one of the new 7900gt or gtx, get the new WD raptor instead of that seagate SCSI drive, speakers are fine, get a x-fi soundcard with them and if you arent very experienced in water cooling i would suggest just getting a big case with a lot of fans instead

yes, there is a significant difference, and get an FX60 for a processor, and a g5/g7 for mouse and either g15 or eclipse keyboard
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Old 03-22-2006, 01:12 AM   #5 (permalink)
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the link you posted seems to have been deactivated, but is this the WD raptor you're speaking of? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136011

though, I am pretty set on watercooling, there seems to be some good reference material regarding the setup of some of these WC systems, while I am rather apprehensive of water cooling from the potential damage if incorrectly set up, the noise/cooling aspect of it is rather enticing.
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[COLOR=\"Red\"]Motherboard:[/COLOR][COLOR=\"Black\"] ASUS P5NSLI[/COLOR][COLOR=\"Blue\"] (Yeah, I know!)[/COLOR]
[COLOR=\"Red\"]Processor:[/COLOR][COLOR=\"Black\"] Retail Core 2 Duo X6800[/COLOR][COLOR=\"Blue\"] Week 26/B2[/COLOR]
[COLOR=\"Red\"]RAM:[/COLOR][COLOR=\"Black\"] 2x1GB OCZ Platinum Rev.2 DDR2-800[/COLOR]
[COLOR=\"Red\"]VGA:[/COLOR][COLOR=\"Black\"] 1x eVGA 7950GX2[/COLOR]
[COLOR=\"Red\"]Sound Card:[/COLOR][COLOR=\"Black\"] SB X-Fi XM[/COLOR]
[COLOR=\"Red\"]HDD:[/COLOR][COLOR=\"Black\"] 2x Raptor 150GB in RAID 0/1x 500GB WD Caviar[/COLOR]
[COLOR=\"Red\"]Optical:[/COLOR][COLOR=\"Black\"] Plextor DVD-R DL PX-716AL[/COLOR]
[COLOR=\"Red\"]Speakers:[/COLOR][COLOR=\"Black\"] Logitech z-5500[/COLOR]
[COLOR=\"Red\"]Fans:[/COLOR][COLOR=\"Black\"] 9x YL D12SM-12[/COLOR]
[COLOR=\"Lime\"]Water-Cooling:[/COLOR][COLOR=\"Black\"] MCP355 w/AlphaCool top/PA120.3/AQX MP-05 SP LE/Silverprop Cyclone NexusSX chipset block[/COLOR]
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Regarding the watercooling:

It is completly safe if you get de-ionised water, so if a leak occures then it will pour out, not affecting the components. If you are not there to turn the PC off, then it will shut down when it hits the max temperature.

Get a custom kit, and not a ready built. The best waterblock is from TDX and the best pump is D5. Buy your water cooling from Danger Den site.

Remember to do a leak test, with out any components in the PC (so you don't have to let them dry out.) You will need to hot wire teh PSU, so get a paper clip and put it in on the green wire and any black one, and it needs to stay in position.

Remember to get some clips, or replace the barbs with screw on ones if you can find any.

Also, The PCP&C PSU you have selected will be very load (just so you know.) If you want silent the Seasonic PSU's are excellent (they won loads of awards.) If you wanted modular, go for only the Hiper Type R 580w.
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P.S. I don't know if you've had any experience with this particular mobo, or if that would even matter, but is there any significant advantage to a seperate sound card VS the onboard variant other than sound quality?
1. less "electrical crosstalk" so better sound quality
2. more advanced features
3. takes load of cpu

it does not make a very significant difference but the difference is still there and seeing as you are spending $6k there is no reason to go cheap
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Yeah, well put, I already opted for a seperate sound card, specifically, the Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeMusic.

Can someone elaborate on the issue of a PSU? such things as, if it will be able to reliably run this setup, the general feedback on the quality of the product, I read up on both Seasonic and Hipro PSU's in their highest Wattages available (600) and both seemed to be met with a good deal of problems, any help about this would be appreciated, because frankly I'm getting a bit flustered, it seems that the PCP&C 850W I picked out does have reviews stating it has a rather loud fan.

edit: P.S. curse you people, I just calculated this and you saved me near $2,000 and built a better machine in the process, what am I going to do with this money now?
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[COLOR=\"Red\"]Motherboard:[/COLOR][COLOR=\"Black\"] ASUS P5NSLI[/COLOR][COLOR=\"Blue\"] (Yeah, I know!)[/COLOR]
[COLOR=\"Red\"]Processor:[/COLOR][COLOR=\"Black\"] Retail Core 2 Duo X6800[/COLOR][COLOR=\"Blue\"] Week 26/B2[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=\"Red\"]Sound Card:[/COLOR][COLOR=\"Black\"] SB X-Fi XM[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=\"Red\"]Fans:[/COLOR][COLOR=\"Black\"] 9x YL D12SM-12[/COLOR]
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i would get the LanParty SLI-DR Venus motherboard seeing as you have the cash. and perhaps you should throw in an extra couple of hard drives and upgrade the case to something huge like the kandalf. get a nice huge RAID array.
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edit: P.S. curse you people, I just calculated this and you saved me near $2,000 and built a better machine in the process, what am I going to do with this money now?
Get something fun, like a mini moto (depending on how tall you are.)

Every PSU will have its bad history. I accept that some Hipers have a load fan, and if they do then you have a dodgy one so return it, but I am really happy with my one - not one single spare cable. I haven't heard anything bad about the Seasonic.

Add another one to the table, how about a Tagan?
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