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Old 07-04-2007, 08:48 PM   #171 (permalink)
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Here is what I recommend for around $2000 (only buy at Newegg!)

COOLER MASTER Stacker 830 (Find me a better performance caseÖ)

OCZ GameXStream 700 watts (Itís a classic now!)/or
Corsair 620 watts (its modular, its plain. And it runs an OC'd 8800 GTX!)

EVGA Nforce 680I SLI (WARNING: Has problems supporting RAM above 1000MHZ. BIOS update to fix this is pendingÖ)

Intel Q6600 (3.2GHz is a safe bet. But with the fan/heatsink below, who knows!)

ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro (Screw water cooling, this beats most of those more expensive, high maintenance set ups!)

2GB G.Skill 6400 (Dominator performance, without the wallet taking one for the team!)

Evga 8800 GTS 320MB/640MB (I use Evga exclusively. But recently I've heard XFX has been allowing mildly OC'd GPU's keep their lifetime warranty!)

320GB Western Digital Caviar 7200RPM (more silent then Samsung, and stays cool even passively.)

Lite-On 20X Lightscribe (a little loud when reading/writing, but it's fast and it's a steal!)/or
18X Samsung (Hard to find these days, because itís so silent!)

X-Fi XtremeGamer

20 inch SAMSUNG 206BW for 8800 GTS (Best bang for buck monitor)/or

24 inch SAMSUNG 244t-BK for 8800 GTX (best gaming monitor!)


Dual core is faster today. Quad cores will be faster tomorrow. So Quads are the better deal. Quads will just become better with age, as more and more software is written for them. But dual core does OC better, because they produce less heat. So if a high OC is important to you, and you upgrade your CPU often; then go with the dual core. But if you ask me, do yourself a favor. Pay a little bit more for a quad core now, and enjoy much more performance later.

If you want an 8800 GTX take in consideration the size of your case, and power supply. The 8800 GTXís are long cards that don't fit in some mid-towers. You're advised to investigate your case compatibility with this card when choosing. And those 8800 GTX's also suck a lot of juice, especially if you OC them. So if you want to go GTX, I advice a full tower case. And a 700watt power supply minimum (unless itís the Corsair I recommended above.) Plus itís good future proofing to go a little larger then you need.

And please do yourself a favor! Don't bother with the power supply a case gives you. Buy one separately, that's of quality, and from a good rep brand. I wouldn't OC with a power supply less then $100. Yes quality comes at a price! It's one of the most over looked parts of the pc. But it's the part that gives OC'ers the most problems! Trust me Iíve been there!

When deciding on a graphic card. The most important thing to consider is the resolution on the monitor youíre going to be using. The more pixels, the more horsepower you need. Graphic memory is the biggest bottleneck at high resolutions. So the higher your monitorís resolution, the more graphic memory you need. My basic rule of thumb is this: 1680x1050 resolutions and the 8800 GTS represents 0 degree temperature in gaming right now (or the sweet spot if you well.) 1680x1050 and under, go for the 8800 GTS 320MB. For 1680x1050 and higher, go for the 8800 GTS 640MB.

The mobo is your tool for tweaking your hardware. the Nforce 680i's are famous for their plethora of bio options, and tweaking features. Most gaming boutiques use them, and they do for a reason. I know they try to skimp wherever they can, for an extra buck made. But Falcon NW uses an Evga manufactured 680i. And they overclock quads to 3.7Ghz!

As you can see by my monitor selections, Iím a Samsung fan. In fact I use them exclusively (Dell does too!) Those 2 on my list are a good balance between price and performance. But everyoneís eyes are different. So the best way to judge is by going to a shop, and seeing them with your own eyes. But whatever you do AVOID the Samsung 245BW at all cost. Like I said before, you get what you pay for!

P.S. You said you wish you could get an Alienware computer. Well I know a few people who bought one, and wish they didn't! Plus those Alienware cases are cheapo's. $400 bucks for a heat trapper made out of wafer thin plastic that was manufactured for 25 bucks! Dell listen to me: PLEASE phase out Alienware, for the good of all gamers out there!
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Why the **** would you recommend a 680i chipset??? retarded...
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Heres what I plan on buying as of now

Gygabite p35
Quad core q6600
g skill 2gb ram
seagate 320gb hard drive
evga 8800gts 640mb ( Should I get the 8800 gts 640mb overclock or should i go all out and buy the 8800 gtx?)
Lian Li v 1000 case
Corsair 520W ( I dont know if I should get the corsair 620 or will this be enough?
Tuniq Tower 120 P4 & K8 CPU Cooler
ZALMAN ZM-MFC1 Fan Controller Panel
2 OKGEAR 18" SATA II cable with metal latch,UV BLUE Model GC18AUBM
4 LOGISYS Computer CLK12BL 12" Cold Cathode kit
2 Antec 761345-75024-0 120mm Blue LED Case Fan ( Are these fans good enough? Ill be replacing the original ones the case brings for these)
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Heres what I plan on buying as of now

Gygabite p35
Quad core q6600
g skill 2gb ram
seagate 320gb hard drive
evga 8800gts 640mb
Lian Li v 1000 case
Corsair 520W ( I dont know if I should get the corsair 620 or will this be enough?
Tuniq Tower 120 P4 & K8 CPU Cooler
ZALMAN ZM-MFC1 Fan Controller Panel
2 OKGEAR 18" SATA II cable with metal latch,UV BLUE Model GC18AUBM
4 LOGISYS Computer CLK12BL 12" Cold Cathode kit
2 Antec 761345-75024-0 120mm Blue LED Case Fan ( Are these fans good enough? Ill be replacing the original ones the case brings for these)
That is lookin' pretty good. That Corsair 520HX, should do fine. The 620HX would provide room for upgrades.
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The thing is since this is my first time building i dont know if iam going to need the corsair 620 in the future b/c i dont know the amount of power it takes to run this thing
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Here is what I recommend for around $2000 (only buy at Newegg!)

COOLER MASTER Stacker 830 (Find me a better performance case…)

OCZ GameXStream 700 watts (It’s a classic now!)/or
Corsair 620 watts (its modular, its plain. And it runs an OC'd 8800 GTX!)

EVGA Nforce 680I SLI (WARNING: Has problems supporting RAM above 1000MHZ. BIOS update to fix this is pending…)

Intel Q6600 (3.2GHz is a safe bet. But with the fan/heatsink below, who knows!)

ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro (Screw water cooling, this beats most of those more expensive, high maintenance set ups!)

2GB G.Skill 6400 (Dominator performance, without the wallet taking one for the team!)

Evga 8800 GTS 320MB/640MB (I use Evga exclusively. But recently I've heard XFX has been allowing mildly OC'd GPU's keep their lifetime warranty!)

320GB Western Digital Caviar 7200RPM (more silent then Samsung, and stays cool even passively.)

Lite-On 20X Lightscribe (a little loud when reading/writing, but it's fast and it's a steal!)/or
18X Samsung (Hard to find these days, because it’s so silent!)

X-Fi XtremeGamer

20 inch SAMSUNG 206BW for 8800 GTS (Best bang for buck monitor)/or

24 inch SAMSUNG 244t-BK for 8800 GTX (best gaming monitor!)


Dual core is faster today. Quad cores will be faster tomorrow. So Quads are the better deal. Quads will just become better with age, as more and more software is written for them. But dual core does OC better, because they produce less heat. So if a high OC is important to you, and you upgrade your CPU often; then go with the dual core. But if you ask me, do yourself a favor. Pay a little bit more for a quad core now, and enjoy much more performance later.

If you want an 8800 GTX take in consideration the size of your case, and power supply. The 8800 GTX’s are long cards that don't fit in some mid-towers. You're advised to investigate your case compatibility with this card when choosing. And those 8800 GTX's also suck a lot of juice, especially if you OC them. So if you want to go GTX, I advice a full tower case. And a 700watt power supply minimum (unless it’s the Corsair I recommended above.) Plus it’s good future proofing to go a little larger then you need.

And please do yourself a favor! Don't bother with the power supply a case gives you. Buy one separately, that's of quality, and from a good rep brand. I wouldn't OC with a power supply less then $100. Yes quality comes at a price! It's one of the most over looked parts of the pc. But it's the part that gives OC'ers the most problems! Trust me I’ve been there!

When deciding on a graphic card. The most important thing to consider is the resolution on the monitor you’re going to be using. The more pixels, the more horsepower you need. Graphic memory is the biggest bottleneck at high resolutions. So the higher your monitor’s resolution, the more graphic memory you need. My basic rule of thumb is this: 1680x1050 resolutions and the 8800 GTS represents 0 degree temperature in gaming right now (or the sweet spot if you well.) 1680x1050 and under, go for the 8800 GTS 320MB. For 1680x1050 and higher, go for the 8800 GTS 640MB.

The mobo is your tool for tweaking your hardware. the Nforce 680i's are famous for their plethora of bio options, and tweaking features. Most gaming boutiques use them, and they do for a reason. I know they try to skimp wherever they can, for an extra buck made. But Falcon NW uses an Evga manufactured 680i. And they overclock quads to 3.7Ghz!

As you can see by my monitor selections, I’m a Samsung fan. In fact I use them exclusively (Dell does too!) Those 2 on my list are a good balance between price and performance. But everyone’s eyes are different. So the best way to judge is by going to a shop, and seeing them with your own eyes. But whatever you do AVOID the Samsung 245BW at all cost. Like I said before, you get what you pay for!

P.S. You said you wish you could get an Alienware computer. Well I know a few people who bought one, and wish they didn't! Plus those Alienware cases are cheapo's. $400 bucks for a heat trapper made out of wafer thin plastic that was manufactured for 25 bucks! Dell listen to me: PLEASE phase out Alienware, for the good of all gamers out there!
ripple@ ocz,680i stinks... p35-ds3r pwns 6801 sli @$$, af7 is 20$ at svc.com, if u spend 2k on a build u have to get an 8800gtx.......
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The thing is since this is my first time building i dont know if iam going to need the corsair 620 in the future b/c i dont know the amount of power it takes to run this thing
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Thanks Sora that really helps

Should i buy the 8800 gts 640mb overclocked, or the regular one?
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Thanks Sora that really helps

Should i buy the 8800 gts 640mb overclocked, or the regular one?
reg, use atitool to oc
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I just used that site and when i oc the q6600 to 3200 mhz and the vcore to 1.25 ( i dont know if its possible) and included everything else they recommend a 693 wattage
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