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Old 12-11-2003, 11:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question help... dual xeon graphics beast

Alright, so I need a computer for my architecture studio. I'll be running mostly: Photoshop CS, CAD 2004, Studio MAX, VIZ 4, and a Flash studio of some kind. I want a frickin' blazing fast computer to last for the next 2.5 yrs, and I want to build it myself. ..this will be my first shot at buliding my own, and I was wondering if everything was compatible. (I also specifically want to know if I'll need a fan for my hard drive, and if my power supply is large enough.) If anyone has any advice for me I would GREATLY appreciate it! Thanks

here's what I picked out:

--Cases (Computer Cases, ATX Form)
Aspire (Turbo Case) X-Dreamer Silver ATX Mid-Tower Case w/ Window and 350W Power Supply, Model ATXB3KLW-AL/350W.
Case Type: Mid-Tower
Color: Silver
Material: Metal
Drive Bays: 5.25'' x4,3.5''(External) x2, 3.5''(Internal) x4
Expansion Slot: 7
Front Ports: USB2.0 x2,Mic/Speaker x1
Power Supply: 350W
Cooling System:80mm x2
Motherboard Compatibility: Standard ATX
Dimensions: 7.75''x18.5''x16.75'' more info>
N82E16811144010 $50.00

--CD/DVD Burners (RW Drives)
Plextor 8X DVD-RW/+RW Drive, Model PX-708A/SW, Retail
Write Speed: 40X CD-R, 24X CD-RW, 4X DVD+R, 8X DVD-R, 4X DVD+RW, 2X DVD-RW
Read Speed: 40X CD-ROM/CD-R, 12X DVD-ROM
Interface: Internal IDE
Buffer: 2 MB
OS Support: Windows XP/ ME/ 2000/ 98SE, and Mac OS
Features: Lossless linking Technology, Buffer Underrun Proof Technology
Remark: Retail Pack (see pictures for details) more info>
N82E16827131310 $213.00

--CD/DVD ROM Drives
Plextor 16X DVD-Rom Drive, Model PX-116A, OEM
Read Speed: 16X DVD-ROM
Interface: E-IDE/ATAPI
Buffer: 256KB
Access Time: 85 ms (CD-ROM and DVD-ROM)
Data Transfer Rate:2.58 MB/s - 7.2 MB/s CD-ROM, 8.9 MB/s - 21.6 MB/s DVD-ROM
Features: 16-language manual include, DVD Player software
Remark: OEM Bundle (see pictures for details) more info>
N82E16827106240 $33.99

--Fans, Heatsinks (Case, CPU, Chipset)
CoolerMaster Model:TLF-R82(TLF-R82-E1)Blue 80mm Neon LED Fan. x2
Compatibility: Case
Bearing Type: Rifle bearing (patented)
Nominal Speed(RPM): 2500
Max Air FlowCFM): 32.11
Max Pressure: Unknown
Fan Material: Plastic
Heat Sink Material: N/A
Rated Voltage: 12 VDC
Noise(dBA): 25.0
Special Features: 4 LEDs implemented for bright glowing result. more info>
N82E16811999051 $7.50

--Floppy Drives
SAMSUNG SFD321B/LBL1 Black 1.44MB 3.5inch Floppy Disk Drive, OEM Driver Only
Capacity: 1.44MB
Average Access Time: not specified
Interface: 34 Pin Standard Floppy Connector
Form: 3.5 inch
Media Type: All Standard 1.44MB & 720KB 3.5 Floppy Diskettes
Features: Easy to Install, Just Plug & Play, For IBM5 & 100% Compatible Computers
Remark: OEM 1 Year Warranty more info>
N82E16821103203 $5.99

--Hard Drives
Western Digital 120GB 7200RPM SATA HARD DRIVE, Model WD1200JD, OEM DRIVE ONLY
Capacity: 120GB
Average Seek Time: 8.9ms
Buffer: 8MB
Rotational Speed: 7200 RPM
Interface: Serial ATA
Features: Not specified
Manufacturer Warranty: 3 years
Remark: OEM DRIVE ONLY more info>
N82E16822144151 $108.00

Belkin Wireless Keyboard and Mouse F8E815-BNDL PS2 103keys --RETAIL
Interface: PS2
Number Of Keys: 103 keys+9 function keys
Wireless Technology: RF
Palm Rest: integrated
Design Style: Standard
Mouse included: wireless mechanical wheel
Features: Detects keyboard and mouse automatically,Works up to 6 ft. from the receiver,Provides quiet keyboard operation,Includes 9 multimedia and Internet access keys,Features integrated wrist rest for comfortable use,Comes with a Belkin Lifetime Warranty and free technical support more info>
N82E16823154001 $34.99

--Memory (System Memory)
Kingston HyperX (Dual Pack) 184 Pin 1GB(512MBx2) DDR PC-3200 (X2)
Manufacturer: Kingston
Model: KHX3200AK2/1G
Speed: DDR400(PC3200)
Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
Error Checking: Non-ECC
Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
Cas Latency: 2-3-2-6-1T
Support Voltage: 2.6V
Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s
Organization: two 64M x 64 -Bit
Warranty: Lifetime more info>
N82E16820144114 $213.00 (X2)

--Monitors - LCD Flat Panel
Viewsonic VP171B (Black) 17" TFT LCD Monitor Retail
Panel Type: TFT Active Matrix LCD
Native Resolution: SXGA (1280 x 1024)
Pixel Pitch: 0.264mm
Brightness(typical): 260cd/m2
Contrast Ratio(typical): 500 : 1
Response Time: 16ms
View Angle(Horizontal/Vertical): 140° / 140°
Input Connectors: 15-pin D-sub, Digital DVI-D
Features: Ultra-slim 0.67" bezel, HDTV 720p ready
Dimensions & Weight: 15.4" x 17.5" x 9.4" (WxHxD) / 14.3 lbs
Manufactory Warranty / Phone No.: 3-year limited warranty on parts, labor and backlight. / 800-688-6688
Retail box (See pictures for details)Dead Pixels Policy: Replacement or Refund for 8 or more DEAD PIXELS ONLY! more info>

--Motherboards - Server
Asus 875P Motherboard for Intel Xeon Processors Model "PC-DL Deluxe" RETAIL
Supported CPU: Dual Intel Xeon Processors
Chipset: Intel 875P MCH + ICH5R
FSB: 533MHz
RAM: 4x DIMM for Unbuffered DDR333 Max 4GB
IDE: 2x ATA100, 1x ATA133
Slots: 1x AGP 4X/8X,5x PCI
Ports: 2xPS2,2xCOM,1xLPT,1xLAN,8xUSB2.0(Rear 4),Audio Ports
Onboard Audio: AD1985 AC97 Codec
Onboard LAN: Intel 82547 Gigabit Ethernet
Onboard SATA/RAID: Promise® PDC20378, 2x Serial ATA;RAID 0,1,0+1(0+1 across SATA & 3rd IDE)
Onboard 1394: T.I. TSB43AB22A, Supports 2x IEEE1394 Ports
Form Factor: ATX more info>
N82E16813131055 $216.99

--Power Supplies
Antec 430W Power Supply TRUE430
Type: ATX
Maximum Power: 430W
Power Good Signal: 100-500ms
Hold-up Time: >17ms at Full Load
Efficiency: >68%
Over Voltage Protection: +5V trip point @+6.5V;+3.3V trip point @+4.1V;+12V trip point @+14.4V
Overload Protection: Latching Protection+5V @<47A;+3.3V @ <48A;+12V @ <18A
Input Voltage: 115 VAC / 230VAC
Input Frequency Range: 47-63 Hz
Input Current: 9.0A for 115VAC;5.0A for 230VAC
Output: +5V@36A, +3.3V@28A, +12V@20A, -5V@0.5A, -12V@1A, +5VSB@2A
MTBF: 80,000 hrs. @ 25ºC
N82E16817103908 $70.00

Intel Xeon DP 2.8 GHz 533MHz FSB, 512K Cache, Hyper Threading Technology - Retail
Model: Intel Xeon 2.8C w/ Hyper Threading
Core: Northwood
Operating Frequency: 2.8GHz
FSB: 533MHz
Cache: L1/12K+8K; L2/512K
Voltage: 1.525V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket 604
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2
Warranty: 3-year MFG
Packaging: Retail box (with Heatsink and Fan) more info>
N82E16819117016 $339.00

--Video Cards
Chipset/Core Speed: RADEON 9800XT/412MHz
Memory/Effective Speed: 256MB DDR/730MHz
BUS: AGP 1X/2X/4X/8X
Ports: VGA Out(15 Pin D-Sub)+TV-Out(S-Video Out)+DVI connector
Support 3D API: DirectX®9 and OpenGL®2.0
Cable/Accessories: VGA via DVI Adapter,Composite via S-Video Out Adapter,2 Cables,Driver CD,Manual
Max Resolution@32bit Color: 2048X1536@85Hz
Retail Box (See pics for details) more info>
N82E16814102317 $463.00

Grand Total » $ 2,808.96

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Old 12-11-2003, 12:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well i like the components you picked out. So if im correct you bought another power supplyy 430 watts? So therefore you are going to remove the one that came with the case ok. 430watt is good i prefer in the 500s but your ok. Umm...I like the graphics card im gettting the same one on January. But i will be on a amd athlon xp. Excellent HD space. Everything looks good but personally i would have went for AMD u r spending like almost 3 grand on ur rig. Also i wouldnt rush any get those items i would shop around first... check out different sites such as... ,,, these are some good sites check em out.

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Old 12-11-2003, 08:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
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thanks, I priced all of these from newegg, and with shipping costs from that site (totaling 36 dollars), I'm not sure if I can do better... I'll still check the other sites though. ...can you give me any specific reasons why I should go with AMD instead of intel, I can't find (though I didn't look hard) an AMD Opteron processor over 2Ghz, and the xeon is 2.8Ghz... I know the opteron's are cheaper, but I'm open to advice.

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AMD was made to compete with Intel. AMD's are good for gaming and doing graphic design while Intel's are good for encoding and multi-tasking. For your job, i would definitely recommend AMD. It can handle it better than Intel can.
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The multicore Opterons were, last I checked, destroying every other processor in the market in both 32 and 64 bit enviroments. They'll be much more expensive than the Xeon you picked out though so of course they'll be better.

You might as well buy the 6600GT if you are interested in the 9800 since the 6600GT will perform much better overall in both OpenGL and Direct3D.

Ditch the HyperX and get value RAM, and if you really care about the absolute fastest a 15K RPM drive is what you want
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dont get the 9800xt, please get a 6600GT like gaara said. i would say go with AMD. you shuold go with opterons or x2.

eDIT; how is the 9800xt 400 dollars?
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$500 for a 17" LCD??? Why?? You can get 19" LCD's with lower response times for alot lower than $500!
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16ms?!>!>!"<!><!<?!>!?>! anywayws, thats the monitor which is like the MOTHER OF ALL MONITORS or something, i really dont know, but i heard it was the best of all LCDs
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Old 08-25-2005, 05:53 PM   #9 (permalink)
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16ms sux.
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i know it sucks, im saying why is it 16ms if its the most expensive 17in monitor on newegg...thats why im going ?!?~?!??!?@!@>?!@#<?!@>

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