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Old 05-07-2006, 07:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey, I'm new to the forum, and believe it or not I need help building a gaming computer. First just wanted to thank everyone who contributes here, because there's so much information, and I've been reading through some of the guides etc. for a while and they are extremely helpful. My problem is, I'm hardware illiterate, so I'd like some suggestions on what to get. I'm looking at a budget anywhere from $1000 to $1500, but as low as possible obviously.

I'm building a gaming pc and I'm wanting to use my 32' widescreen HDTV, and that's a question in itself, will there be problems with a setup like that? That's also why I'm having trouble finding the right video card, because I'm not sure which cards are widescreen and HDTV compatible. Most of the cards have S-video outs it appears, and I'm not sure if S-video is Hi-Def capable. So, whether or not my tv will work is question number one, two is what video card to get if the tv will work.

Motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16813131524R
I am not sure about this at all, need opinions.

Processor:
Not sure, I want an AMD I know but, from what I can tell there's no way I can get a dual core on my budget, I'm kind of lost on this whole category though.

Memory:
Need help, I had chosen a 1024mb pc 5400 OCZ stick but it's the wrong number of pins and I read on a guide here that it's better to get two 512's. Namebrand seems to be somewhat important with memory so who should I look for? Also, should I go for 2 gig of memory or is that overkill?

HDD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16822144013R

DVD Burner:
Found it once I thought, but couldn't again. I think it was a dual layer burner with lightscribe for under $50.00.

Power Supply:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817103512
Again, uncertain about this.

Case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...133-142&depa=1

OS:
I have a 360 so I'm thinking Media Center but does Microsoft offer a 64 bit OS? I'm not sure but I'm thinking XP is 32 bit? I've been told that 64 bit is much better. Might be way off here, dont know?

Soundcard?
Do I need one to connect to my 5:1 Sony home theatre system? The motherboard says "8 channel onboard".

Any other recommendations would be a huge help. Is there a list around here about the other smaller usually unmentioned things needed for a build? Like isn't there some kind of gel to put between the processor and heatsink? And do I need memory coolers? Last, how many fans should I add to the case?

I realize there's a huge amount of questions here and I'm sorry but like I said I'm nearly illiterate so any help would be great. I've been researching all afternoon, so I'm not coming at you without trying to figure anything out, but much of this is stuff I just don't completely understand and could use help with. Thanks a WHOLE LOT guys.

-Josh
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Old 05-07-2006, 09:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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x2 3800+ isnt that big of a price jump over regular chips, I got my entire setup in my sig for 1280 or so, and pricing it out again it comes out to be around 1150 i think.
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Old 05-07-2006, 09:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
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you already have the monitor so tahts a GREAT plus.

here is what you need.

Asus A8n Sli deluxe motherboard
WD Raptor 36GB
WD Caviar 200GB
G.skill 2gb dual channel ram
Antec TruePower II 550Watt
AMD Opteron 170, Dual core 2.0Ghz
get this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102003
or this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130015
video card, they are both great.

for case, the Thermaltake Tsunami.

All that would cost you anywhere from $1400-$1500 depending on the video card. THAT IS A GREAT! build for ur budget.
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Old 05-07-2006, 09:59 PM   #4 (permalink)
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^that build takes the cake i doubt anyone can build you something better for that budget
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i think you should go with

ASUS a8n deluxe sli ($140.99)
AMD x2 3800+ ($297.00)
eVGA 7900gt ko ($288.99)
2x512 Corsair 2GB XMS3200($188.00)
2x200gig western digital ($153.98)
Enermax Liberty 620watt ($174.99)
Thermaltake SViking ($75.99)
Windows XP ($144.95)
ALL from newegg

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Okay, did a little mix and match and this is what I came up with. Still don't know about the processor, and will the HDD combo work well?

Motherboard: ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16813131517R

Video Card: eVGA 256-P2-N564 Geforce 7900GT KO
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130015

Processor: Okay I'm in the dark here still, what's the upside to shelling out the extra $50 for the Opteron 170 Denmark over the Athlon 64 x2 3800+?

Memory: G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231047

HDD: WD Raptor 36GB and a Seagate Barracuda 160GB I have laying around never used
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822144200

Power Supply: Antec TruePower 2.0 TRUECONTROL II-550W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817103933

Case: Thermaltake SViking
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...133-142&depa=1

OS: Windows Media Center Edition
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End results, but still open to any and all suggestions. Thanks for all the help.

Motherboard: ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe $140.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16813131517R

Video Card: eVGA 256-P2-N564 Geforce 7900GT KO $288.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16814130015

Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ $297
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103562

Memory: G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR 400 $149.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16820231047

HDD: WD Raptor 36GB and a Seagate Barracuda 160GB I have laying around never used $101.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16822144200

Power Supply: Antec TruePower 2.0 TRUECONTROL II-550W $99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16817103933

Case: Thermaltake SViking $75.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...-133-142&depa=1

DVD Burner: Asus 16X DVD+- with 5X DVD-RAM write $37.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827135063

OS: Windows Media Center Edition $114.95
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832102357

All from newegg for a grand total of $1307, anything you can see that needs to be rethought, replaced, or added, please let me know. Also, need a good suggestion for a wireless mouse and keyboard. I probably want bluetooth because I'm going to split the cpu to a regular monitor and my Sony Widescreen and want to be able to use same mouse and keyboard on both screens without having to point them at a tower or something. Won't be any more than 30 feet from cpu with either screen though.
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looks good but links dont work in last post

ps didnt read full post is there a reason why you want MCE?
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I've got a 360 and since it and MCE are designed to work together I figured that Media Center would be just as good for me as XP, also I'll be keeping my current computer and it has Office Xp already on it.

Links work in post before the last one and the only thing different is the processor I think and that link does work in the most recent post.
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Old 05-08-2006, 10:52 PM   #10 (permalink)
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k, change the motherboard to MSI K8n neo4-f, and change the processor to Opteron 170, YES IT IS WORTH IT. in a while when games will be more demanding, you WILL overclock ur processor, its not hard, pretty ez in fact, just read guides. and the reason for the change in mobo to MSI is because 1) MSI IS WAYYYYY BETTER! 2) MSI IS WAYY BETTER FOR OVERCLOCKING! 3) Asus costs more, and is not better.

as for optical drive, get a NEC 3550A.

everything else is great.
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