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Old 04-28-2006, 04:38 PM   #21 (permalink)
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u plug the monitor to the video card ONLY, not the motherboard.

you wanna change the mobo to MSI K8n Neo4-F, change the PSU to ANtec TruePowerII 450Watt, and either get the 6600, 6800, or the 7600, 7300 is a piece of sh1t.
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and one FINAL (hopefully) question...

the above specs are for the 7600 GT but the 7900GT of the same bran (eVGA) is $300.00 ($130 more) and has all the same specs...

what's teh 7900GT got other than a name and being newer that the 7600GT doesn't?

literally the only difference between the two that i saw was that the 7600GT had a 580 Mhz core and the 7900GT had a 500 Mhz...
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thanks john3 i guess i was a little late posting the above reply cuz you seem like you could answer me pretty fast
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umm...accidently reloaded in the wrong page or something...idk
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$829.96 or $815 basically after $15 rebate on video card, this computer would be good for overclocking, much better video & sound card, other little things like the nforce 4 chipset on the mobo is good & 16mb cache on the hard drive, get something more like this.

http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16811119077
COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-WW Black/Silver Aluminum Bezel, SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16813131569
ASUS A8N5X Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16814130283
eVGA 256-P2-N553-AX Geforce 7600GT CO 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
Free copy of Age of Empires III with purchase! While Supplies last.

http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16817153006
Thermaltake Silent PurePower TT-420AD(DUAL FAN) ATX 420W Power Supply 115/230 V UL, CSA, TUV, CE - Retail

might want to upgrade to the FSP group 450 watt for $12 more though.

http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16819103537
AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice 2000MHz HT 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 Processor - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16820145491
CORSAIR XMS 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit System Memory - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16822140168
Maxtor DiamondMax 10 6L200S0 200GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16827152058
NEC Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X

http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16829102178
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS SB0350 7.1 Channels 24-bit 192KHz PCI Interface Sound Card - OEM
^one of the best budget builds i've seen^

3 or 4 changes.

1: Get the Fortron 450w PSU, it compares to some 500w and even some 550w PSU's cause of the 36A on the 12v rails.

2:i would go for the MSI K8N Neo4-F, great mobo, overclocks just like the DFI, if i remember correctly in anandtech's tests there was only a 20mhz difference in the overclock.

3: You can get G.SKILL "Value RAM" for much cheaper, crap just checked Newegg and what used to cost $132 with a mail in Rebate and used to be the extreme series just went back up to $181.

But luckily i found some patriot RAM that seems to be the same as the G.SKILL the PZERO used to overclock his opty 170 to around 2.8ghz(i think) for $126. Patriot 2gb Dual channel RAM $126!!!

you can also ditch the audigy2 and just use the onboard sound, unless you want to.

with my minor changes to macdawg's build it's one of the best budget builds out there.

PS: does anyone here heard any bad things about patriot memory?
i think it's pretty nice stuff for $126.
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ok i think you guys might actually say this could work pretty well...

MSI Athlon 64/FX,Socket 939, ATX, nForce4, 4GB DDR, 1000MHz FSB PCI x4, PCI-1 x1, PCI-4 x1, PCI-16 x1, SATA x4, IDE x2
$80.67

AMD Athlon 64 3000+ 1.8GHz, 512KB, 1GHz, Socket 939 AMD - ADA3000BPBOX
$108.79

XCLIO Black 250mm fan (6 open 80mm fan slots) 0.6 mm SECC ; Aluminum Front Panel ATX Mid Tower 6010BK
$48.00

Unincom U8025 80mm Sleeve Cooling Fan - Retail Bearing Type:Sleeve, RPM 2200RPM, Air Flow: 27.5CFM Model #: U8025
$6.75

Antec SmartPower 2.0 500 Watt ATX 12V v2.0 PSU PCIE Ready, 4 ATA's, Model SP500
$64.99
*i'm only leaving this cuz it seems like a very reliable PSU (probably more than i need but i'd rather have more than less)

Patriot 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200)
$126.99 (after $50 rebate)

Maxtor DiamondMax 200GB Serial ATA150, 7200 RPM 16MB Cache Model #: 6L200S0
$90.50

NEC Black 16X - DVD+-RW/DL 42X CD/RW Model #: ND-3550A BK OEM
$37.50

eVGA GeForce 7600 GT - 256MB, PCI Express x16, Dual DVI, core - 58o Mhz, RAMDAC - 400 Mhz, Mem - 1.5 Ghz, GDDR3 technology
$177.70

********* TOTAL: $774.70 **********


))EXTRAS((

Acer AL1916W 19" LCD Monitor 19", 1440x900, 8ms, PC Acer - ETL5209005
$221.00

Logitech CORDLESS DESKTOP EXPRESS (SKU: 9674070403)
$26.00

Windows XP ElectronicsPLUS
$85.00

Total w/ extras & monitor: $1,101.70


if there's anything wrong with this tell me. cuz this is what i'm gonna go on unless i hear back in a couple of days.
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perfect just ditch the maxtor and get this western digital.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822144701

same price, better quality, SATA2 and 50 extra gigs.
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i'm not committed to the XLIO 6010BK yet but i really like this tower cuz of the 25cm fan and then putting in 4 8cm ones. This would be a very cool running build.
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MrZucchiniHead i had the exact same HDD but people were telling me to switch back to the Biostar or to a MSI and neither had SATA II so it wouldn't work on either motherboard. Both the Biostar and MSI motherboards are supposed to OC very well.
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First, I would recommend this motherboard:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157081

Note: Read the reviews at newegg.

It will provide you with some flexibility later, since it has an AGP 4X/8X slot and a PCI-e slot. It is also set-up for AM2. It is the best dual on the market.

Read this article on TomsHardware's site:

http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/10/14/the_/page3.html

He is talking about a $500 value gaming machine, but he is using the "best bang for the buck" parts. (Note: He is using the CPU that you chose.) It should OC to 2.0/2.2GHz. You have just gained about $100.

While I don't subscribe to using value memory, this time I will relent. Try the Corsair memory in the article. It is dual channel and that is good.

I will recommend this PSU:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817103512

I will let you select the remaining system. The article should help tremendously.

Good luck! Go Big Red!!

p.s. Let me know if you have further questions.

DO NOT GET THAT MOTHERBOARD DO NOT!!! sorry for the caps but I was really yelling, Didn't I tell you guys about this!!!

Pci Express cards are aroung the same price as agp some times cheaper, so why would he get an agp motherboard?? I bought one and its crap! Look at this screen shot the lower score is the asrock the double the performance is an Asus A8V (same hardware except board!) They haven't worked the kinks out of the ULI chipset yet.

http://www.mikemcgrath.net/blog/2006...-asus-a8v.html
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