Friend Building Comp

ZorrosRage · Mar 6, 2010

This is the specs he gave me and wanted me to give him my imput. Just figured you guys could help out. I have not worked with the phenom2 mobos very much so not sure which is the best ect. This is his build. I would like to lower the price a bit closer too $1000 if possable. Its at
1323.88 right now. without S/H
SAMSUNG 24x DVD Burner - Bulk SATA Model SH-S243N/BEBE LightScribe Support
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151193
$24.99

Antec Nine Hundred Two Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129058&cm_re=902-_-11-129-058-_-Product
109.95

HITACHI Deskstar HD31000 IDK/7K (0S00163) 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145287
84.99

Acer V213H Bbd Black 21.5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009220
$159.99

MSI 790FX-GD70 AM3 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130223
$167.99

GIGABYTE GV-R585D5-1GD-B Radeon HD 5850
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125300
$309.99

XION PowerReal AXP-850R14N 850W ATX 12V v2.2 / EPS 12V v2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817190024
$84.99

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9Q-8GBRL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231325
$224.99

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HDZ955FBGMBOX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103808
$159.99

Microsoft J93-00001 Black USB Wired Standard Digital Media Keyboard 3000
Microsoft D66-00069 Black 3 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB or PS/2 Wired Optical Mouse
$36.98
Subtotal: $1,374.88

orihS â€ªâ€ªâ€ªShiro · Mar 6, 2010

Newegg.com - SAMSUNG 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 4X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24x DVD Burner - Bulk LightScribe Support - CD / DVD Burners
Cheaper same performance + Light Scribe

HE DOES NOT need a Full tower with that setup.
Why does he want to buy a full tower? Jesus.
He could shave like $100 off the build if he bought a Rosewill Blackbone or something.

Caviar Green <---Not good as a primary drive, I've tested many of these with HD Tuner... Their write/reads are ALL OVER THE PLACE.
They're good for low power consumption so they're great storage drives, but not as primaries.

Acer monitor <--I disapprove because Acer monitors are notorious for light bleed, color distortion, and a slew of other problems. He should get the Asus equivalent if he wants to spend a small amount and get a TN panel monitor. If he can afford a little bit, I'd recommend a totally different monitor possibly a Samsung if he wants to stay relatively cheap.

790FX <-- He only needs that motherboard if he's crossfiring.
Otherwise I suggest he get a 770, 780L, or 785.
Also, if he's going to spend $100~ on a motherboard, the 890 AM3 motherboards are niiiiiice.

5770 <--
Newegg.com - ASUS CuCore Series EAH5770 CuCore/2DI/1GD5 Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards

Would outperform that Sapphire card.

PSU: I recommend against it, but I don't keep up with PSUs as closely as other board members. Seek a second opinion.
I usually recommend $50-70 power supplies for a build with those sorts of parts and this sort of budget.
Antec Earthwatts 650w is great and can run all of those parts with no problems.

RAM:
No one that I have ever met needs 8Gb of RAM and I know gamers, engineers, and graphics designers.

The CPU is great.
The Thermal compound is great.
He should get a third party cooler like the Cooler Master Hyper 212 or something.

Also that's the C2 revision of the 955.

Newegg.com - AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor - Processors - Desktops

That's the C3 revision, which is cheaper and supposed to perform better than C2, however benchmarks say otherwise that I've seen.

I've heard rumors the C3 revision overclocks further, but in real world performance and benchmarks the C2 often wins.

The C3 is just better for power consumption, but only slightly...

Muffin Man · Mar 6, 2010

well, whats he going to use the pc for?

ZorrosRage · Mar 6, 2010

Muffin Man said:
well, whats he going to use the pc for?

about to eat so will be able to post more in a second, but its for gaming/VM machines. He would like to play stalker, crysis, WoW, SC2 Beta on full settings. He would also like to be able to run 4-5 virtual machines at once for his classes.

ok im back.

orihS â€ªâ€ªâ€ªShiro
An X-fire board was chosen because he plans on crossfire in the future. He does not have money for a single 5850 right now so soon he wants to get another 5770.

The 8 gigs of ram is also there for number of virtual machines he will be running at once, and doing his projects.

I don't know why the full tower was chosen. Most liken for the space and the fact that he plans to crossfire in the future.

Changing the vid card and the cd drive
Case changed to http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021

System updated.

Any other suggestions. Would like to drop the price a bit more.

james.wired · Mar 6, 2010

Don't listen to orihS â€ªâ€ªâ€ªShiro about the case, get whatever you want. It's personal preference, if you want a full tower then go for it, who cares. I have a full tower case. Do I absolutely need it? Nope. Do I love it? You bet. It's really spacious and extremely easy to work with and provides plenty of cable management options. Go for it if that's what you want. I know I will never go back from Full Tower.

patonb · Mar 6, 2010

Okay, the 900 isn't a full tower.. The 1200 is. If he plans on a 2nd card, he will need the room..

However, the 900 is abit dicey on cable management. 902 is better but 10 bucks more. A dremal and some eblow greese can make the 900 much better though.

ZorrosRage · Mar 6, 2010

patonb said:
Okay, the 900 isn't a full tower.. The 1200 is. If he plans on a 2nd card, he will need the room..

However, the 900 is abit dicey on cable management. 902 is better but 10 bucks more. A dremal and some eblow greese can make the 900 much better though.

case changed to the 902 for now
I had the full case up initially but changed the build a little bit. I may go bat to the full tower since it is more spacious.

I think the issue still is price. Need to shave it down a bit more. Any advise?

Muffin Man · Mar 6, 2010

including a monitor, 8gigs of ram, a 5850 and other things like the case he wants and a psu to support xfire, i don't think you're going to get close to a $1000 total.

i did make a similar build just to see what i could get and i only got to just under $1300. things like getting a less expensive case and getting a smaller hdd will help reduce the total.

ZorrosRage · Mar 7, 2010

Muffin Man said:
including a monitor, 8gigs of ram, a 5850 and other things like the case he wants and a psu to support xfire, i don't think you're going to get close to a $1000 total.

i did make a similar build just to see what i could get and i only got to just under $1300. things like getting a less expensive case and getting a smaller hdd will help reduce the total.

Do you know some nice looking cases with good airflow for cheaper?

Muffin Man · Mar 7, 2010

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