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Old 07-21-2006, 12:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi. I am going to be building a home machine to repalce my six year old amd 700mhz compaq.

I will be using the computer for internet, burning cds, movie transcoding, photoshop, programming, sound production, and gaming.

I will also be needing a montior and speakers, but let's not focus on that for now.
The core PC I will want to TRY to spend under $1000 USD

So far I know I want a dual-core system, because of the multi-tasking benefits.
I am not 100% sure on my video card and the hard drive.
At first i was going with a socket 939 cpu/motherboard, but now I think I will get the newer AM2 socket. I have not considered the Intel Conroe's because I think they would be too expensive....

Here is a list a compiled last week (all from newegg.com)
Are they any comments/suggestions on the parts I have considered so far.
ANY FEEDBACK WOULD BE APPRECIATED, THANKS IN ADVANCE.

CPU-----------------------------------
* AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Windsor 2000MHz HT Socket AM2 Dual Core Processor Model ADA3800IAA5CU - Retail * $297.00.

MOTHERBOARD**********************--------------------------
* Foxconn C51XEM2AA- 8EKRS2H Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce 590 SLI MCP ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

AGP Slots: None
CPU Type: Athlon 64 X2/Athlon 64 FX/Athlon 64
DDR2 Standard: DDR2 800
Dual Channel Supported: Yes
FSB: 1000MHz Hyper Transport (2000 MT/s)
Maximum Memory Supported: 8GB
Number of DDR2 Slots: 4x 240pin DDR2
PCI Express x1: 1
PCI Express x16: 2
PCI Express x4: 1
* Model #: C51XEM2AA- 8EKRS2H
* Item #: N82E16813186098
* In Stock
* $15.00 Mail-In Rebate
* $8.69 Three Day Shipping
* [5 Reviews]
* Move item to Wish ListMove To Wish List

* $209.99

* ASUS M2V Socket AM2 VIA K8T890 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

AGP Slots: None
CPU Type: Athlon 64 X2/Athlon 64 FX/Athlon 64
DDR2 Standard: DDR2 800
Dual Channel Supported: Yes
FSB: 1000MHz Hyper Transport (2000 MT/s)
Maximum Memory Supported: 8GB
Number of DDR2 Slots: 4x 240pin DDR2
PCI Express x1: 1
PCI Express x16: 1
South Bridge: VIA VT8237A
* Model #: M2V
* Item #: N82E16813131024
* In Stock
* $5.46 Three Day Shipping
* [2 Reviews]
* Move item to Wish ListMove To Wish List

* $82.99

* Gigabyte GA-M59SLI-S5 Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce 590 SLI MCP ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

AGP Slots: None
CPU Type: Athlon 64 X2/Athlon 64 FX/Athlon 64
DDR2 Standard: DDR2 800
Dual Channel Supported: Yes
FSB: 1000MHz Hyper Transport (2000 MT/s)
Maximum Memory Supported: 16GB
Number of DDR2 Slots: 4x 240pin DDR2
PCI Express x1: 2
PCI Express x16: 2
PCI Slots: 2
* Model #: GA-M59SLI-S5
* Item #: N82E16813128011
* In Stock
* $8.69 Three Day Shipping
* Combo Special
* [1 Reviews]
* Move item to Wish ListMove To Wish List

$199.99

MEMORY-RAM----------------------------------------------
* CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400 - Retail

Cas Latency: 5
Features: matched pair, with Heat Spreader
Heat Spreader: Yes
Manufacturer Warranty: Lifetime
Timing: 5-5-5-12
Voltage: 1.9V
* Model #: TWIN2X2048-6400
* Item #: N82E16820145590
* In Stock
* $40.00 Mail-In Rebate
* Free Three Day Shipping
* Combo Special
* [16 Reviews]
* Move item to Wish ListMove To Wish List

$198.00

POWER SUPPLY*********--------------------------------------------------------
Rosewill RP500 ATX 500W Power Supply 100-120 vrms or 200-240 vrms switch-selectable CSA, CB, TUV, FCC, UL - Retail - $54.99
Rosewill RV450 ATX12V 450W Power Supply 115/230 V CSA, CB, TUV, FCC, UL - Retail - $34.99
Antec SmartPower 2.0 SP-500 ATX12V 500W Power Supply 115/230 V TUV, UL, CUL, CE, CB, FCC - Retail - $69.99
Antec TRUEPOWERII TPII-550 ATX12V 550W Power Supply 115/230 V UL, TUV, CB, FCC CLASS B, CUL - Retail - $89.99
OCZ PowerStream OCZ520ADJSLI ATX, BTX, EPS12V 520W Power Supply 100~120Vac / 200~240Vac 10/6a - Retail - $134.99
ENERMAX Liberty ELT500AWT ATX12V 500W Power Supply 90V~265V (Auto Adjusted) UL, cUL, TUV, CB - Retail - $104.99 < $109.99




COOLING*************************************** multiply times 3-4+ because you need multiple fans for the whole system
MASSCOOL FD08025S1M4 80mm Sleeve Case Cooling Fan - Retail - $1.99
MASSCOOL BLD-08025S1M 80mm Sleeve Blue LED Light Case Cooling Fan - Retail - $3.89
MASSCOOL WhisperRock II 5F263B1M3 80mm Ball Cooling Fan/Heatsink - Retail - $9.99
VANTEC TD9238H 92mm 2 Ball Case Cooling Fan - Retail - $10.55
VANTEC TD8038H 80mm 2 Ball Case Cooling Fan - Retail - $10.99

CASE********************************************** ************************************************** ************----------------------------
Antec LifeStyle SONATA II Piano Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 450Watt SmartPower 2.0 ATX 12V V2.0 for AMD & Intel systems Power Supply - Retail $99.99 < $104.99
COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UW Black Aluminum Bezel, SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail - $49.99
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Antec Solution SLK3000-B Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail - $49.99 < $54.99
COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UB Black /Blue Aluminum Bezel , SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail - $49.99
Rosewill TU-155 Black Steel ATX Black 0.8mm SGCC Steel Mid Tower Computer Case 400W(20+4 pin) Power Supply - Retail - $54.99
COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-WW Black/Silver Aluminum Bezel, SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail - $55.99
ASPIRE X-CRUISER-BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail Original Price: $69.99 - $64.99
Thermaltake SViking VA4000BWS Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail - $75.99
Antec Solution SLK3700-BQE Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case Single fan 350W SmartPower ATX12V Power Supply - Retail - $95.00
COOLER MASTER Praetorian PAC-T01-EK Black All Aluminium Alloy ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail - $109.99


SPEAKERS
Logitech Z-2300 200 watts RMS 2.1 Speaker - Retail - $98.99


MONITOR
BenQ FP91G+ Black 19" 8ms LCD Monitor 250 cd/m2 550:1 0.294mm Pixel Pitch - Retail - Original Price: $215.99 - $210.99
ViewSonic VA1912wb Black 19" DVI 8ms Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 500:1 Built in Speakers 0.294mm Pixel Pitch -Original Price: $209.99 - $204.99
ViewSonic VX924 Black/Silver 19" 3ms gray-to-gray (avg.); 5ms white-black-white (typ) LCD Monitor 270 cd/m2 550:1 0.294mm Pixel Pitch - Original Price: $269.99 - $257.99
BenQ FP202W Black 20.1" DVI 8ms Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 600:1 0.258mm Pixel Pitch - Retail - Original Price: $299.99 - $294.99
Rosewill R912E Black 19" 8ms LCD Monitor 270 cd/m2 500:1 0.294mm Pixel Pitch - Retail - Original Price: $234.99 - $224.99

PRINTER

KEYBOARD

MOUSE
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Old 07-21-2006, 12:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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i hate to say it but you should probably take what you have planned now......and go back to the drawing board . if you can actually get a Conroe chip that would be a better option. the way i here it you should be after the E6600.
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I can make a few suggestions:

First of all, wait till the 24th, then u can get a X2 5000+ for the same price as the 3800+ is now. That X2 3800+ will be around $150.

PSU: OCZ Gamexstream 600W or 700W
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231087 Better CAS than the RAM u picked out
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Wow what a great first build. Good choices(except the PS)

CPU- good pick(but prices are SUPPOSED to drop on the 24th)

MOBO- Foxcon has great reviews, MSI is good too and DFI is comming soon(absolute best)

Memory- is fine, but check out Gskill and Mushkin too

PS- never Rosewill, Enermax has a lot of RMAs, I would use a Silverstone or the Trupower is good too.

Cooling-Look at the Arctic Cooling 8's and 12's. Excelent fans and cheap too.

Cases- The centurion is excelent for the money. It looks a lot nicer in person than in picts.Look for the one with the side window. If you are into shiney check these out,
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...1&Sku=D15-1060

Speakers- I got them, they shake the walls!

Monitor-I dont know if I would go wide screen, I have had good luck with Benq.
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Old 07-21-2006, 01:02 PM   #5 (permalink)
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wow thanks everyone for the quick replys, keep em coming please.

nitestick: anything specific besides the CPU ?

meefle: i overlooked that RAM because on newegg bcuz I only looked at items that: 1) had a "LOT" of reviews and 2) had perfect reviews (once in a while i would look at the ones with 4 stars). That being said, I saw that the CAS latency was kind of high on that but I assumed it was typical with ddr800 ram... i will look into what you recommended, and thanks for recommending the PSU... I am really unsure about what brands and etc....
I hope I do not overlook other items because of my methods of gathering options.

markkleb: wow... thats a significant price drop... for the motherboard I was planning on getting a DFI Lan Party but i did not see any listed for the AM2 socket, so im glad to here that they are coming soon, i just hope the price is not ridiculous (sp.) also thanks for recommending/ruling out some of the options for PSU,case, and fans!
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a few suggestions...

well for one i wouldnot look past the conroes, yet. The cheapest one willbe going for like 200 and it would still knock the **** out of the 3800+

but i have to say great choice on the motherboard if you do go am2. its a wonderfulboard.

other then that i say good selection.
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I can make a few suggestions:

First of all, wait till the 24th, then u can get a X2 5000+ for the same price as the 3800+ is now. That X2 3800+ will be around $150.

PSU: OCZ Gamexstream 600W or 700W
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231087 Better CAS than the RAM u picked out
DUDE! hes not going to need a GameXstream 600W or 700W if he has a $1000 budget build! sry to be rude, but WTF are u thinking, u help people here get a good rig not waste money on something they wont use. from you about PSUs, no matter the persons budget you always suggest a absurdly high wattage, and expensive PSU.

anywayz......

for a psu you would want an Antec, either SmartPower or TruePower

go here and see how much wattage you would need
http://www.extreme.outervision.com/

then pick whichever you one u want.

as for mobo, stic, with the Asus one.
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Yeah, the biggest suggestion I have is to wait. Whether you go with a new Conroe or not, just wait because then when those come out, most AMD processors will drop dramatically.

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2800
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well i just finished going over the article about the conroe's at tomshardware. very detailed with many benchmarks, graphs, etc...
[http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/07/...out_athlon_64/]

it seems like the debut prices for the conroe's are going to be relatively cheap... according to an article from zdnet
[http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=48]
the intel core2duo E6600 will have an approx. price of $320 which is not much more than the now current athlon x2 3800, 4000, etc.. i guess we will see what happens after the price drop.

so for the chip i will hold that off until the conroe's are out and get a more user-based perspective of them rather than the professional benchmark tests that are currently out right now.... (than i would also have to compare intel conroe-compatible motherboards)
but as far as the other components keep the suggestions coming... thanks
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Yeah, conroe hits on the 27th, wait for it and then order what you want because AMD prices will drop by sometimes half I hear.

Conroe itself is pretty nice too.
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