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Old 12-31-2005, 03:28 AM   #41 (permalink)
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UT2007 is based on DirectX 9 and thats not changing. The engine is already done. They would have to make a new engine for it to be DX10. And what about games like UT2004? this is such a load of BS.
Well, the code could be upgraded to DX10 without using DX10 specific effects. Basically in the same way that UT2004 can be run in DX9 mode even though its natively a DX8.1 engine. Its going to have to be upgraded being as that Unreal Engine 3 be the standard gaming engine for the next several years.
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Old 12-31-2005, 03:33 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Well if you where paying any **** load of attention to him then youd realize something. Oh wait you where saying it yourself. You already have backwards compatibility. Think about it, your sitting at it man!! You already mentioned a hundred times youll need a new system to play on Vista right? Well if thats the case i doubt your gonna through away your XP machine so just have 2 machines, one for Vista, other for XP. Whammo, compatibility at your fingertips.
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Old 12-31-2005, 03:49 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Im not sure were you guys see that Vista will require anything more than DX9 ive searched high and low and all i see is the same thing.

"Microsoft has yet to unveil Vista's official requirements. The company, which has said it would not finalize them until summer, has thus far recommended that customers who wish to upgrade and take full advantage of all Vista UI features purchase a machine with a discrete graphics card that supports its DirectX 9 graphics framework, Windows Display Driver Model, 32 bpp (bits per pixel) color depth, and which contains at least 64MB of graphics RAM.

It has further hinted that Vista technologies, such its Max user interface for Windows XP, should be used on PCs with at least a 2.4GHz processor, 512MB of RAM, and a graphics card capable of handling its Windows Presentation Foundation.

Such a card, the company says in an online FAQ, should be "the fastest PS 2.0 [Pixel Shader 2.0] card with the most memory your bank account can afford," such as ATI Technologies Inc.'s Radeon X800 or Nvidia Corp.'s GeForce FX 6800.

Most discrete graphics cards available now meet those Microsoft requirements.

A Microsoft spokesperson said the hardware guidelines for Windows Vista offered by the software are unchanged.

However, analysts say the cutoff point for running Aero Glass is likely to begin with only today's latest and thus highest performance integrated graphics chip sets, including models such as ATI Technologies Inc.'s Radeon XPress 200, Nvidia Corp.'s nForce4 and Intel Corp.'s Intel 945 Express, which arrived in desktop PCs last May and will ship for notebooks in January."

Source: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1886829,00.asp

And this spec from MS's site:
"Minimum system requirements will not be known until summer 2006 at the earliest. However, these guidelines provide useful estimates:
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512 megabytes (MB) or more of RAM
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A dedicated graphics card with DirectX® 9.0 support
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A modern, Intel Pentium- or AMD Athlon-based PC. "

Source: http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/n...taBeta1FS.mspx

Now im not saying that they wont use something other than DX9 in the future but to me this sounds like that Vista will still run with all its froo-froo just fine on DX9. And that the upgrade to anything higher will really be decieded by the community..not by MS evil as they may be they just cant force the upgrade on people. A company cant afford the upgrade and gamers just wont accept it.
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MS is not THIS stupid to alienate half of their customer base, well actually more like 80% of it.
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Brindlemar Microsoft has said all of this on it's developer networks and many members can get news from there.
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Oh Shut up Tyler. Its amazing how stupid some of you can be about this whole thing. Its not about pushing anyone into the 21st Century. Its going to be the same transition as it was from Windows 2000 to Windows XP.

As for videocards; Not everyone uses videocards. Ever heard of $5 Integrated Graphics? They run it fine. $300 Dells will still be out there that run Vista like anything else.
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Some of us want the most out of our machine *******.
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Let's wrap this up now shall we?
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