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Old 08-25-2005, 11:03 AM   #51 (permalink)
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LOL, the guy just said that his top budget is around 3K not 5K!

btw, I don't see why XP Professional would be necessary for him. And that optical drive is a rip off. And he doesn't need a sound card but even if he wants to get one who would spend $160 on one? Why such expensive RAM? He will not be overclocking. Also I think the hard drive setup is major overkill.

All in all I think that system would be a huge waste of money for him.
i just decided to build some really expensive system... ...can i not show what im going to buy
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Old 08-25-2005, 11:26 AM   #52 (permalink)
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the only really good things Dell make are monitors.
asside from that, I think building it is a very good idea. do a google search and you'll see hundreds, if not thousands of guides on how to do it.

one thing that stops people from doing it is the fear of breaking something. in actual fact, the chances of something breaking is quite small, as long as you are careful with static electricity (just touch the case before doing anything)
only USB and firewire headers carry enough voltage to break anything if you plug in the wrong thing. (that's out of the things that actually fit in the wrong place)

I'd get what was suggested:
Athlon 64 X2 4800+
DFI NF4 Ultr-D
Leadtek 7800 GTX
2x512MB G.Skill PC4800 - just put the CPU at 300HTT and 10 multiplier to make 3000MHZ (from 200 HTT and 14 multiplier to make 2800MHZ) you'll get a little bit of an overclock that you should be comfortable with (an extra 200MHZ on the core)
if you don't want to do that yourself, maybe get someone to do it for you.
although that's completely up to you whether you want to go for higher speed RAM anyway.

and I would stick with the onboard sound on the DFI board. it is pretty good quality, and supports 7.1

speaking of that, Logitech has some 7.1 speakers, the Z-5500's. like everyone who has used them has absolutely loved them.
they are pretty expensive though ($278 at newegg)

XP Pro is definately worth getting over Home. it's more stable, more tweakable, and does more stuff (like runs dual cores)
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i say get some heatsinks on the G.Skills cause they will be running hot. or you might want to put a fan around there to blow cold air over it
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the G.Skills are guaranteed DDR600 without coolers or anything
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really, so if you burnt them all the way black you can return it, even if you pump 4 volts into them..?
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I'd get what was suggested:
Athlon 64 X2 4800+
DFI NF4 Ultr-D
Leadtek 7800 GTX
2x512MB G.Skill PC4800 - just put the CPU at 300HTT and 10 multiplier to make 3000MHZ (from 200 HTT and 14 multiplier to make 2800MHZ) you'll get a little bit of an overclock that you should be comfortable with (an extra 200MHZ on the core)
if you don't want to do that yourself, maybe get someone to do it for you.
although that's completely up to you whether you want to go for higher speed RAM anyway.

and I would stick with the onboard sound on the DFI board. it is pretty good quality, and supports 7.1

speaking of that, Logitech has some 7.1 speakers, the Z-5500's. like everyone who has used them has absolutely loved them.
they are pretty expensive though ($278 at newegg)

XP Pro is definately worth getting over Home. it's more stable, more tweakable, and does more stuff (like runs dual cores)
Again... It's not hard to build a system, but some people do not have the money nor WANT to "tweak" their confuser. (it was even said in a previous reply, that he would not O/C) A lot of people want a good system that will last a few years, before getting really out of date... Do you think having DUEL AMD 4800's is that big a deal? the ram, GPU, etc... COOL... but damn... that's some serious money being thrown to something the original poster may not need. Ever. I think even one of those would be sufficiant to quite some time. (Don't mind me, I'm playing devil's advocate here...) In truth I think a real good system could be built, to include LCD Monitor, and speaker system for around 3K USD that would impress most people and still have at least a couple of years before serious upgrading...

Just a thought...
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Well hes not getting dual 4800's, that would be something...he was looking at one 4800 dual core processor. But i think i talked him out of it, so he's gonna get a 4000 clawhammer, for $385.
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Ok guys. Thanks for all of the input. I think that I am going to order my parts tonight. Here is the final list based on your thoughts and my needs. Please give me any final comments/advice!

DFI LANPARTY nF4 SLI-DR Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail $198
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813136151

AMD Athlon 64 4000+ ClawHammer 1GHz FSB 1MB L2 Cache Socket 939 Processor - Retail $385
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103497

Leadtek WinFast PX7800GTX Geforce 7800GTX 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 VIVO PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail $499
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814122224

X2 OCZ Value Series 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit System Memory - Retail $416.50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146841

Lian Li PC-60BPlus Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail $129
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...&Go.x=0&Go.y=0

Western Digital Raptor WD740GD 74GB 10,000 RPM 8MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM $183
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822144160

X2 Seagate Barracuda 7200.8 ST3250823AS 250GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM $224
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148065

CD / DVD Drives & Media > CD/DVD Burners (RW Drives) > Sony > SONY Black IDE Combo Drive Model CRX320EE/B2S - OEM
$31
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106826

SONY Black IDE DVD Burner Model DWQ28A - OEM $40.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827131256

Microsoft Windows XP Professional With Service Pack 2 - OEM $141.95
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16837102153

OCZ OCZ600ADJ-SLI PowerStream SLi w/Adjustable Power Rails & LED 600W PS $193
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch...ct_Code=100663

ideazon Zboard Gaming PW1USE1-B3ZBD01 2-Tone 108 Normal Keys 17 Function Keys USB Wired Standard Keyboard - Retail $43
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16823161013

Possibly this monitor (I'm not sure if it is worth not using my 21" CRT I got with my Dell 4 years ago)
ViewSonic VP191B Black 19" 8ms (gray-to-gray); 20ms (black-white-black, typ) LCD Monitor 250 cd/m2 800:1 0.294mm Pixel Pitch - Retail $439.99
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16824116277

Total with Monitor = $2,924.43 with/out Monitor $2,484.44

I will also be getting the Creative X-FI when it comes out.

Thanks for all the feed back you guys shaved between $500 to $1,000 off of the Dell system I was looking at. Do I need any special tools to put the PC together. How long do you think it will take a first timer to complete?

EDIT:
Any thoughts on a PSU from newegg.com so I can order everything from one place? I want to make sure that it is 24 PIN, 2.01 and all of that other good stuff I don't understand but you guys have mentioned.

Also do I need to buy any Fans for the computer?

What are your thoughts on that moniter? Should I keep my current or get the new one?

Do I need a floppy drive for setting the system up? Is it wise to get one? Any recomendations or will any work?

Should I get this video card instead - it has better reviews and looks faster?
eVGA 256-P2-N529-AX Geforce 7800GTX 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail $579
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130237
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belkin anti-static wrist strap 5 bucks. a non magnetic screw driver, a bottle of your favorite beer/soda/water and peace and quiet for about a day

EDIT: i guess yuor not OCing by looking at the ram
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227210

464 dollars for 2 of these, and they have lower timings at 2 which is a big difference(for some people) and will OC better but that only depends if you want to OC, which i really dont think you want to OC cause you alreayd ahve a high end system but if you want to make it more higher end system then youc an OC
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