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Old 02-17-2006, 03:12 AM   #21 (permalink)
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ok, well its midnight and im not getting any sleep again -_-... unfortunatelly... so i am going to do this graph over the break. I will be able to look at the posts, but not post the graph or anything until the end of the week. I just have a few questions:

1. how often do the nVidia and ATI cards release... i believe it is every year or so, but i am not sure

2. same thing - processors. i calculated it to be about 3 "families" per year, but i want to make sure that is correctish (includeing laptops)

thats it... i am making it know with what i [think i] know, and then i'll edit it with your response.

thanks guys!
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Old 02-17-2006, 03:25 AM   #22 (permalink)
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well, i think that computers will be implanted in your body, so you can game wherever so in that sense laptops & desktops will be merged but the ultimate gaming rigs would be desktop rigs, with the graphics restricted by our screens & the resolution of which the eye works.
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thatd be sweet... lol

but does anyone know.....
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1. how often do the nVidia and ATI cards release... i believe it is every year or so, but i am not sure

2. same thing - processors. i calculated it to be about 3 "families" per year, but i want to make sure that is correctish (includeing laptops)
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don't get me wrong, i encourage you to talk about future technology, but i just want to varify the numbers to put up a gerneral equation of how much something will be worth after x months.

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Just one thing about all this. Silicon . The main part of all chip boards. Silicon has a certain amount of how small it can go. So in say 5 10 years we are going to need to use summin else and the only thing that can go smaller than silicon is cells . Were talking about us or animals. They would try making cell computers now but they're worried that the cause cells can evolve and change that they will evolve minds of there own and it will truely be the matrix . All i can say is when that day comes I hope i'm dead . So your hypothesis is true if silicon could go that far but unfortunaltly it can't. Were probably go as small as we can go with silicon then go on to make muti CPU and GPU things and then just massive computers. We may even stop advancing in computers althougther.
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Heres some random data found so far....

"I cant remember what some of them cost but I will try:
1. 3d Fx Voodoo I - $100
2. 3d FX Voodoo II - $150
3. 3d FX Voodoo III - $199
4. 3d FX Voodoo V 5500 - $199
5. Nvidia Geforce III(first Bigtime card) $299
6. Nvidia Geforce IV Ti 4600(Even Better) $399
7. Ati 9700 Pro 128 MB(made the switch) $399
8. Saphire 9800 Pro 256MB $450
9. Ati X800 Pro 256MB $499
10. Ati X1900 XTX 512MB $650

Total comes to almost $3500 in 10 years!"

"ATI Xpert@Play 98 2MB $90
ATI Xpert2000 8MB $75
Dual Black Magic 3D II 12MB Voodoo2 (SLI) $275 each
3dFX STB Voodoo 3 3500 32MB $325
Creative Labs RivaTNT2 $280
PNY GeForce256 $275
then i stopped for a while
Generic Geforce4 MX440 $40
ATI Radeon 8500LE $75
ATI Radeon 9500pro $150
ATI Radeon 9800np $290
ATI Radeon X800XT-PE $533
Asus N6600 Geforce 6600 $80 (used, just to test out pci-e)
ATI Radeon X850XT $499
Leadtek Geforce 7800 GTX $550
Dual ATI Radeon X1800XL's $479 each
ATI Radeon X1900XT $525"

"- matrox millenium 4mb (???)
- diamond stealth s540 32mb ($120)
- diamond viper v770 tnt2 ultra 32mb ($350)
- ati radeon 32le ($90)
- leadtek winfast geforce 2 gts 32mb ($120)
- ati radeon 8500 32mb ($200)
- ati radeon 8500 AIW ($200)
- ati radeon 9500np 128mb ($100)
- ati radeon 9700 pro 128mb ($180)
- ati radeon 9800 pro 128mb ($150)
- bfg geforce 5900 128mb ($70)
- ati radeon 9800 xt 256mb ($170)
- ati radeon 9700 pro AIW 128mb ($110)
- ati radeon X800 pro ($250)
- ati radeon X850 XT AGP ($220)
- bfg geforce 6800 ultra AGP ($280)
- mobile 6600 Go (laptop) (???)"

"1. Trident 4mb - Free came w/ computer
2. ATI Rage Pro 8mb - $40
3. 3DFX Voodoo3 16mb - $130
4. ATI Radeon DDR 32mb - $170
5. ATI AIW Radeon 8500DV 64mb - $199
6. ATI AIW Radeon 9700 128mb - $299"

"Voodoo 4500 $150
Voodoo 5500 $210
TI 500 $300
ATI 8500 $190
Gforce 6600 GT $200
Gforce 7800 GTX $499
I miss the vodoo 5500 BUT its right here on the wall!"

"5200fx -60$
9800Pro- 180$
6800GT-350-400$??(whatever they costed new)
X850XT-500$
7800GTX-599$"

"Starting in 1998,

Matrox M3D
Voodoo II
Voodoo III
Voodoo 5500
GF2MX
GF4TI4200
GF4TI4600 $165
ATI 9500Pro $105
ATI 9800Pro 256 $205
PNY 6800 128 $165
BFG 6800GS 256 AGP $202, nice card I'll stay with agp for another year or so."

"Dec 1999 Voodoo 3 3000 $150
May 2001 Voodoo 3 3500 $100
Jan 2002 Geforce 2 GTS-v $50
Dec 2002 Radeon 8500LE $80
Sep 2003 Radeon 9600 pro $150 (fried)
Jan 2004 Radeon 9600XT $200"

History of GPUs ATi

History of GPUs nVIDIA

CPU History

Another CPU History

This data should prove to be an excellent building ground. If you fill in the blanks all the information would be revealed quite nicely!
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Just one thing about all this. Silicon . The main part of all chip boards. Silicon has a certain amount of how small it can go. So in say 5 10 years we are going to need to use summin else and the only thing that can go smaller than silicon is cells . Were talking about us or animals. They would try making cell computers now but they're worried that the cause cells can evolve and change that they will evolve minds of there own and it will truely be the matrix . All i can say is when that day comes I hope i'm dead . So your hypothesis is true if silicon could go that far but unfortunaltly it can't. Were probably go as small as we can go with silicon then go on to make muti CPU and GPU things and then just massive computers. We may even stop advancing in computers althougther.
Wow, and you know what. That cell thing will happen eventually. I mean computers are gonna be like living things which scares me.

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Why its Richie Franka and his "Everlasting Graphics Processor"!
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But ya, tommy. Something that would REVEAL the trend in the market as far as new technology goes. I mean, there has to be some kind of recurrent function that would pretty much be applied to all technology as a prediction of price taking into account its starting price and current age and could be solved for X months old, Y1 Retail, Y2 actual, etc.

As far as computers of the future go...however said that about gaming is absolutely right. I mean look at FPS in games. The human eye can't see more that 80 at the MOST? so computer games will advance beyond our judgment and reach a critical point. Humans won't be able to tell the difference between more advance tech.

And hes also right in saying that there little need beyond gaming. Things have already seemed to level out. I mean .3 sec for 12 million search results? sounds like they can check that one off the list....I think its a race of hardware to make it simpler, smaller, light.
10-15GHz would probably be a threshhold of necessity. I bet They will develop a conciousness if we let them. My history teacher once pointed to his computer and said "someday that blasted machine will walk on two feet and say "I think, there for I AM!"

To be perfectly honest with you...

I don't think the human race will be given an oppurtunity to advance that far. I beleive we are ripe for a cleaning...I love computers to death, but technology can be idolized and worshipped...
The G-Man doesn't like that one too much...
He doesn't like when his creations replace Him with a piece of metal. We'll end up with enough rope to hang ourselves I do believe...Good gosh, WTF would a BOMB be like in 2050?

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Nice post. Exactly what I was thinking. I also believe technology will be our downfall. Pretty soon they will be putting chips into our hand and you know what that is.
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Why Thank You...

Chips in the hands = Prophecied Mark of the Beast?

"666MB w/ "charagma" Core! Get yours today!...or we'll F'n Kill you!"

They're already doing this in pets, and some infants *cringe*. It's called "Digital Angel"...oh the irony! I found this on the internet...

"First they will implant it in those who could not refuse (prisoners, and the military). Then, they would build a case for potential or feared kidnap victims. At first, it would be voluntary. Then, it would be required for "certain services." Eventually, it would be mandatory, and probably implanted at birth."

The world will embrace such applications of a device in the medical field, search and rescue, economy, safety, military strategy, etc. Theres a really good book out there called ENOUGH and its all about our obsession with technology.

More from the internet article...
"Digital Angel Owner claims no one will be forced to wear Digital Angel. "We live in a voluntary society," he said. Yeah, like the "voluntary" Social Security card, and the "voluntary" income tax? Voluntary today tends to eventually, inevitably become mandatory."

This is all starting to remind me of HL2! Oh what a GREAT game with such profound setting!
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Amen to that! Theres no denying the fact either. It WILL happen. There is no reason it wouldn't, its too ideal for our society. Only those with good judgement and foresight will obstain from taking it and they will be outcast or will die (denied food water etc in a time of DIER need). All of the stories will become a reality and the world will enter its darkest chapter yet...until...ya...you know

Wheres tommy? lol. this thread is going to end up getting moved
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Tommy we need you to keep this thread alive!
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