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Old 06-20-2009, 07:03 PM   #21 (permalink)
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i see,

but the only reason i included that case was not because i wanted it. the OP had selected that case in his list, therfore, since its his build, and the case is a matter of prefrence, i included it because it was the one he originally chose.

also, there are many people that decide that they would like an i7 build and they don't do anything thats hardware intensive other than the general pc use and a good bit of gaming. also, if you can get a nice i7 build, you won't have a need to upgrade for sometime to come, unless of course your a pc enthusiast. i didn't say that thers was anything wrong with a c2Q build

and for the psu, thats fine that the one you selected is modular, but you have to understand that i was choosing one that was getting the best bang for his buck.

for the monitor, you should look and the 2nd edit of my last post.
I'm starting to get a little confused now. But maybe I will go with your build. Also if there is a better case than the one I suggested that you know of, please suggest it. I just chose mine because all the other ones I looked at, many people were complaining about the lack of fans or the poor quality of it and how there wasn't enough room for them.
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Old 06-20-2009, 07:27 PM   #22 (permalink)
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well, not every case will come with as many fans as it can hold, you can always buy more fans, considering that they are really cheap.

i guess you could go with a case with better air flow, the one you picked seemed good to me.

edit: what DawnofDoom was suggesting was that if you think your rig will be cluttered with the extra unused power cables, that you should buy a modular psu, which would allow you to physically remove unused cables, but they can cost a bit more.

and that if you wanted to include a monitor into the $1000 budget, he had suggested a core 2 quad build.

but with the inclusion of a monitor into that budget, youd need to downgrade the cpu, ram, and gpu.

if you're still gonna buy the monitor seperately, id go with my build.

2nd edit: another good air flow case would be

Newegg.com - Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Computer Cases

but it would up your total by around $30
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well, not every case will come with as many fans as it can hold, you can always buy more fans, considering that they are really cheap.

i guess you could go with a case with better air flow, the one you picked seemed good to me.

edit: what DawnofDoom was suggesting was that if you think your rig will be cluttered with the extra unused power cables, that you should buy a modular psu, which would allow you to physically remove unused cables, but they can cost a bit more.

and that if you wanted to include a monitor into the $1000 budget, he had suggested a core 2 quad build.

but with the inclusion of a monitor into that budget, youd need to downgrade the cpu, ram, and gpu.

if you're still gonna buy the monitor seperately, id go with my build.
Oh thank you. At least it had solved this confusion. I guess one monitor wouldn't be that much of a deal.
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Also, what most people dont understand is that having more fans is not always better. In most cases just 1 intake and 1 exhast fan is fine. As you add more things can become messy and adding more fans usually has a negative effect because it disturbs the flow, creates areas of static air etc.

So dont worry if you case doesnt have 50 fans, because it doesnt need it.
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Also, what most people dont understand is that having more fans is not always better. In most cases just 1 intake and 1 exhast fan is fine. As you add more things can become messy and adding more fans usually has a negative effect because it disturbs the flow, creates areas of static air etc.

So dont worry if you case doesnt have 50 fans, because it doesnt need it.
So will my original case work or will the Antec 900 be better?
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yes, what meat helmet said.

thats why i kinda figured that the case you picked was good. it has 120mm intake and exhaust fans and two 80mm side fans.

either case will be fine.
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lol hai its me again.. just another comment about the case. The antec 900 is a weeee bit hard to cable manage in without extra modification. Although it can be an epic case with some work. You just gota be creative about how you hide your cables and get them outa the way. ya kno?

But since this is your first one. it'd be better to just get it built. Then worry about wire manage ment later ya kno?

LOL it seems like all i do is worry about cable management in this thread. LOL but i do feel that it is important.

once you have all your parts with you and installed you'll better be able to see and understand cable management better. You can check out our Cable management thread here for some ideas

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Just for some ideas on how you can route your cables if you havent looked. But this is for later on once you get your parts ordered.

The HAF 932 has amazing airflow and cable manageability
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If your willing to spend just a bit more you can add this PSU.
I've had better experience with this. the PSU i recomended was just for saving cash. nothing wrong with it though.

Newegg.com - CORSAIR CMPSU-620HX 620W ATX12V v2.2 and EPS12V 2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Power Supplies

If your not going to be doing Hard core gaming then the C2Q build i suggesed would be fine.

The mushkin may not have alota street credit as far as their name goes but i can tell a good PSU by the specs when i see one. More 12v rails are better. again its modular. the one you recomended has only 1 12v rail which isnt necesarily good but Corsair has the street credit to back it up because of their experience in the market of PSU's
More 12v rails is usually worse because when you have demanding cards it is more likely to overload a 12v rail that only has 20A on it. Its better to have one powerful rail that can handle everything.

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Newegg.com - G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL8TU-6GBPI - Desktop Memory
Newegg.com - XFX HD-487A-ZHFC Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards
Newegg.com - Acer X223Wbd Black 22" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 2500:1 - LCD Monitors
Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - Internal Hard Drives
Newegg.com - SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 22X DVD Burner - CD / DVD Burners

hope its not too much over budget, comes to 1165 with 30 in rebates, great build. No more confusion because i can see this thread has been quite confusing for you, that should satisfy you. For under 1000 in simple, take out mobo cpu combo, and put in the amd 940 phenom II + biostar 128m mobo/cpu combo.
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More 12v rails is usually worse because when you have demanding cards it is more likely to overload a 12v rail that only has 20A on it. Its better to have one powerful rail that can handle everything.

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Newegg.com - Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, Digital Cameras and more!
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Newegg.com - XFX HD-487A-ZHFC Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards
Newegg.com - HIS Hightech H489F1GP Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards
Newegg.com - Acer X223Wbd Black 22" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 2500:1 - LCD Monitors
Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - Internal Hard Drives
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hope its not too much over budget, comes to 1165 with 30 in rebates, great build. No more confusion because i can see this thread has been quite confusing for you, that should satisfy you. For under 1000 in simple, take out mobo cpu combo, and put in the amd 940 phenom II + biostar 128m mobo/cpu combo.
But do I need to buy both graphics cards?
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sorry i copied it over the wrong component, i edited my post for you. ^
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