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Old 04-09-2011, 11:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi every one.

The PC i have right now has just gave up on me. Iv tried every thing to get it back up and running but i have had no luck. Iv been wanting to build my own pc since the beginning of last year but never had the funds to do so.

This is what iv came up with so far.

Processor:
This: Intel Sandybridge i7-2600K Unlocked Core i7 Quad-Core Processor (3.40GHz, 8MB Cache, Socket 1155): Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories
Or this
Intel Core i7-2600 Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories
I dont know the difference between them


RAM:
OCZ DDR3 PC3-12800 Gold Low-Voltage Triple Channel: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories
OR
Corsair DDR3 2000MHz 12GB (3x240) DIMM Unbuffered 9-10-9-27 DOMINATOR GT with DHX+ and Airflow II Fan (Supports Core i7): Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories
Does the ram need to be in equal pairs? If not then i will go with the 12GB @ 2000Mhz

Cooling Fan: Noctua NH-U9B SE2 Dual Fan Quiet CPU Cooler, Intel and: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics

Case: http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/prods/components/cases/cases/Coolermaster/RC-932-KKN1-GP.html

PSU: http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/prods/components/powersupplies/Corsair/CMPSU-950TXUK.html

Blu ray player: Amazon.co.uk: Used and New: LG BH10LS30.AUAU10B 10x Internal Blu-Ray BDRW Bare + Software

Graphic card:
Zotac GeForce GTX 580 Graphics Card: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

and the motherboard.. which i dont know if it is to small or not. Could you find me a better motherboard within the same price range?
Intel S5500BC Server Motherboard - Intel Chipset


What i want to know is if all these components will fit and run together fine.
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Old 04-10-2011, 04:09 AM   #2 (permalink)
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A quick word of advice - it's better to buy everything from the same site if you can, that way you save on shipping and you can guarantee everything will arrive at the same time.

The difference between the two CPUs is the 'K' after the 2600.
2600K = Allows overclocking
2600 = No overclocking
It's better to go for the i5 2500K than the 2600.

So basically, if you're going to be overclocking, and have the money, go for the i7 2600k.


You will need to get RAM in multiples of two if you're going for a Sandy Bridge i7 CPU. So, 2x2GB, 2x4GB, 4x2GB and so on. Look for a decent pair of 2x4GB sticks (if this build is for gaming, you won't need more than 8GB) that run at 1600MHz or higher.

Looks alright - it will fit.

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Case: http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/prods/components/cases/cases/Coolermaster/RC-932-KKN1-GP.html
I have the same case, it's great

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PSU: http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/prods/components/powersupplies/Corsair/CMPSU-950TXUK.html
Rather overkill, but it will definitely work.

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and the motherboard.. which i dont know if it is to small or not. Could you find me a better motherboard within the same price range?
Intel S5500BC Server Motherboard - Intel Chipset
That motherboard is the wrong socket for the CPU you want to buy - that motherboard is 1336 socket, while the CPU is 1155 socket. So, you should look for a motherboard which has a 1155 socket. You'll need a P67 chipset motherboard if you want to overclock.
Here's what I recommend, that's similarly priced to the one you picked:
http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/p...-g0eay0kz.html

Oh, and you mentioned you were worried about the motherboard fitting? Motherboards use several size standards. ATX is the usual one; most motherboards are this, and pretty much all cases will fit ATX-size motherboards. There's also mATX, which is a smaller standard. As long as the case you're after supports the standard that the motherboard is, they will fit perfectly together.


If you need any more help or advice, feel free to ask

A couple of question, btw:
- What OS are you going to be using?
- Do you need a monitor?
- Why did you not include a hard drive?
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A quick word of advice - it's better to buy everything from the same site if you can, that way you save on shipping and you can guarantee everything will arrive at the same time.
I was thinking of buying every thing from the same place.. but if i do i will pay more overall.

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The difference between the two CPUs is the 'K' after the 2600.

2600K = Allows overclocking
2600 = No overclocking
It's better to go for the i5 2500K than the 2600.

So basically, if you're going to be overclocking, and have the money, go for the i7 2600k.
Alright, ill go with the i7 2600k

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You will need to get RAM in multiples of two if you're going for a Sandy Bridge i7 CPU. So, 2x2GB, 2x4GB, 4x2GB and so on. Look for a decent pair of 2x4GB sticks (if this build is for gaming, you won't need more than 8GB) that run at 1600MHz or higher.
Im gonna be using this for
Video editing (Adobe After Effects)
Photoshop
Gaming, one game that i play is Ram hungry - Its on 24/7 x 8 of the client (Its a mmo)
and normal use - I want to do this all at the same time.

So the higher the speed the better (for rendering) and higher the ram the better since i play a ram hungry game.

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Looks alright - it will fit.
alright

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I have the same case, it's great
Cool =)

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Rather overkill, but it will definitely work.
Alright.

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That motherboard is the wrong socket for the CPU you want to buy - that motherboard is 1336 socket, while the CPU is 1155 socket. So, you should look for a motherboard which has a 1155 socket. You'll need a P67 chipset motherboard if you want to overclock.
Here's what I recommend, that's similarly priced to the one you picked:
Asus P8P67 Deluxe Intel P67 (Socket 1155) Motherboard - B3 Revision
Are there any other motherboards that have 6-8 ram slots within the same pricerange?
I really suck at finding motherboards haha.

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Oh, and you mentioned you were worried about the motherboard fitting? Motherboards use several size standards. ATX is the usual one; most motherboards are this, and pretty much all cases will fit ATX-size motherboards. There's also mATX, which is a smaller standard. As long as the case you're after supports the standard that the motherboard is, they will fit perfectly together.
I wasnt worried about it fitting in the case but rather that the graphics card will have enough space to fit on it.

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A couple of question, btw:
- What OS are you going to be using?
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit.
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- Do you need a monitor?
I might stick with the one i have now or buy a 27inch 2560x1440

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- Why did you not include a hard drive?
I already have a few spare hard drives, though if you recommend i should buy a new one i will =)



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Old 04-10-2011, 02:28 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Alright, so i have been looking at motherboards and noticed that 1155 socket = dual channel and 1366 socket = triple channel
Is there much difference between the new i7 CPU and the old ones? except for the processing speed?
Like this one Intel i7-950 Quad-Core Processor (3.06 GHz, 8MB Cache, Socket 1366): Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories
vs
Intel Sandybridge i7-2600K Unlocked Core i7 Quad-Core Processor (3.40GHz, 8MB Cache, Socket 1155): Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

If its just the processing speed.. will it effect me much?
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Old 04-10-2011, 02:38 PM   #6 (permalink)
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They're different series of CPUs - the clock speed (the GHz) can only compare to other CPUs in that respective series. Basically, two CPUs from two different series, running at the same clock speed, aren't going to be equal in overall performance, because they will have different architectures and coding and so on - even if they're similar like the two series you're quoting.

Sandy Bridge is the newer series of the i3/i5/i7 CPUs, and it's definitely worth getting one over one of the older ones.

I poked around for some Sandy Bridge motherboards with more than 4 slots, but couldn't find any. I don't really see why you'd need them? Since most of the mid- and high-end mobos can take up to 32GB. Since you're only after at least 12GB of RAM, get a 2x4GB set of RAM, and then the same RAM but in a 2x2GB set. That'll get you your 12GB. And if you ever want to go up from that, you can replace the 2x2GB with a 2x4GB set and you'll have 16GB.

Hard drives - depending on old they are, you'll probably want to replace them. And besides, with your budget you should definitely get a solid state drive - nothing will improve the performance of your computer more than the addition of an SSD. Get one with at least 60GB, and just have your OS and programs on it, and then use something like a 1TB HDD for all your storage.

And with the HAF932, as far as I know all current GPUs will fit in it - a GTX580 definitely will.

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I was thinking of buying every thing from the same place.. but if i do i will pay more overall.
That's only true if you don't take deals into account. Sites like scan.co.uk have daily 'Today Only' deals that are sometimes okay, and sometimes brilliant. And if you save the link from a Today Only, you can still use that deal for a week.


I've thrown a build together on Scan.co.uk to see what this build would cost:
Mobo - https://secure.scan.co.uk/aspnet/Sho...ductId=1471530
CPU - https://secure.scan.co.uk/aspnet/Sho...ductId=1471479
Cooler - https://secure.scan.co.uk/aspnet/sho...ductid=1115552
RAM - https://secure.scan.co.uk/aspnet/Sho...ductId=1471754
GPU - https://secure.scan.co.uk/aspnet/sho...ductid=1426575
HDD - https://secure.scan.co.uk/aspnet/Sho...ductId=1471562
SSD - https://secure.scan.co.uk/aspnet/Sho...ductId=1471398
Case - https://secure.scan.co.uk/aspnet/Sho...ductId=1471810
BD-RW https://secure.scan.co.uk/aspnet/Sho...ductId=1472100
PSU - https://secure.scan.co.uk/aspnet/sho...ductid=1246000

Total: 1,270.20
That includes VAT and UK shipping.
I put in 16GB RAM because... why not? You sound like you will probably use it, and saves you ordering some more in future. Also I put in a 1TB HDD and a 60GB SSD.
Cooler is the same, PSU is a lower wattage but is modular. Blu-ray driver is the same thing. GPU is not the same brand but still good.


So out of curiosity, how does that compare with the total you have? For easier comparison, take off 130 for the HDD and SSD.
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That's only true if you don't take deals into account. Sites like scan.co.uk have daily 'Today Only' deals that are sometimes okay, and sometimes brilliant. And if you save the link from a Today Only, you can still use that deal for a week.


I've thrown a build together on Scan.co.uk to see what this build would cost:
Mobo - https://secure.scan.co.uk/aspnet/Sho...ductId=1471530
CPU - https://secure.scan.co.uk/aspnet/Sho...ductId=1471479
Cooler - https://secure.scan.co.uk/aspnet/sho...ductid=1115552
RAM - https://secure.scan.co.uk/aspnet/Sho...ductId=1471754
GPU - https://secure.scan.co.uk/aspnet/sho...ductid=1426575
HDD - https://secure.scan.co.uk/aspnet/Sho...ductId=1471562
SSD - https://secure.scan.co.uk/aspnet/Sho...ductId=1471398
Case - https://secure.scan.co.uk/aspnet/Sho...ductId=1471810
BD-RW https://secure.scan.co.uk/aspnet/Sho...ductId=1472100
PSU - https://secure.scan.co.uk/aspnet/sho...ductid=1246000

Total: 1,270.20
That includes VAT and UK shipping.
I put in 16GB RAM because... why not? You sound like you will probably use it, and saves you ordering some more in future. Also I put in a 1TB HDD and a 60GB SSD.
Cooler is the same, PSU is a lower wattage but is modular. Blu-ray driver is the same thing. GPU is not the same brand but still good.


So out of curiosity, how does that compare with the total you have? For easier comparison, take off 130 for the HDD and SSD.
Wow, thats real nice. Thanks!

I just checked the shopping basket and for some reason it shows the price as:
Net Total: 1,167.48
Carriage: 13.98
VAT: 236.32
Total: 1,417.78

Here is a screen shot;
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...nk/pcprice.png

Did i do something wrong or is that just the price without the deal? If so how can i get the deal to have effect on the total price?

EDIT: I just checked the price without the HDD + SSD and it came to 2 over the price you said.
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I didn't have the power supply in my Basket 1417 is correct.
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I didn't have the power supply in my Basket 1417 is correct.
ah, thats fine :P Its still better and cheaper then the one i made plus its all from the same supplier.
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Indeed
Scan isn't very good for monitors though, I tend to look eBuyer for that.
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