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Old 05-03-2009, 02:52 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Nice, yeah, I will see and if I find some more $$$ I think I will go with the i7, but for right now, I think I want to set up a rig around the Q6600 Quad Core.

Do you have any feelings toward the Gigabyte GA-EP45C-DS3R motherboard?

Btw, thank you for all the help you have been so far. It's good to be able to sit and chat with someone who has done this before
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gigabyte makes good boards as well as biostar and asus.

Unfortunately I ran amd cpus during the socket 775 time so I have no experience with any of these boards.

Keep in mind if you do want to eventually go for an i7 you would need to replace your cpu, mb and ram.

If you planned on doing this sooner than later I would build i7 now.

If you go with your proposed build I would plan on running it for at least 2 years.
At that point in time who knows what options you will have.
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Yeah this was a double post of the one previous...

So you Suggest going with the i7 now, because if I go with the Q6600 I will probably have to update within 2 years?

So do you think the i7 would last me through 4 years? Basically all of college.
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refer to my previous post. When the US guys get up they will have some great advice on a socket 775 board for you.

No the q6600 could last you all throughout college. It is just that the costs of upgrading to an i7 from a socket 775 board is almost as much as a new build.
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Old 05-03-2009, 03:32 AM   #15 (permalink)
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ok cool, I'm going to post the revised build for anyone else who wants to look and have a say. Also is the monitor just personal preference? I suppose I would want a nice one..... Anyways

Revised Build

CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 - $200
or
Intel Core i7 920 Quad Core - $300

Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-EP45C-DS3R - $110
or
GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD3R LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - $210

GPU
SAPPHIRE 100265HDMI Radeon HD 4830 - $90

RAM
Newegg.com - G.SKILL PI Black 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Desktop Memory - $50

OCZ Platinum 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) -$80

PSU
CORSAIR CMPSU-450VX 450W ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - $80

Hard Drive
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive - OEM - $75

DVD
Samsung SH-S203B - $30

Case
Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - $60

Monitor
HP 2009M 20-Inch HD LCD Monitor - $150
(If anyone knows any good monitors, feel free to help. I am clueless in this area.

Total!
With Q6600 CPU - $845
With i7 - $1075


Edit - Added the New RAM from 2 posts below.
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if you want to save money get the q6600, i use to have one and they are great. the mobo that you said the gigabyte ds3r is a great board the p45 chipsets overclock like beasts. that ram is good to. should last you through collage.
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If you went i7 you would need different ram. I would get this.
Newegg.com - OCZ Platinum 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Desktop Memory

for a 20" monitor I would look at this one for $139
Newegg.com - Acer X203Wbd Black 20" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 2500:1 ACM - LCD Monitors
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This would be a nice rig for 1100
Newegg.com - Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor - Processors - Desktops
Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD3R LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards
Newegg.com - G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Desktop Memory
Newegg.com - PC Power & Cooling Silencer PPCS500 500W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply compatible with core i7 - Power Supplies
Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE 100265HDMI Radeon HD 4830 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards
Newegg.com - Acer X223Wbd Black 22" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 2500:1 - LCD Monitors
Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive - Internal Hard Drives
Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Computer Cases
Newegg.com - Sony Optiarc Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD/CD Rewritable Drive - CD / DVD Burners

that has been stretched pretty far for your budget, 100 over. (well 80 over actually) but it is an awesome build and would last you a long time. Otherwise i would go with the amd x3 system which should save you a fair bit of cash.

Ok for some reason i failed to see this second page, if you need a quad i wouldn't go with the q6600, use a newer quad, also that motherboard is pretty old, the ds3 series was released when p45 was new, there are much better boards out. You could go with a q8400 which is cheap on newegg, but i reckon you could fit in a nice amd x4 rig.
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Yeah, 1000 dollars with a monitor is quite difficult with an Intel i7 build. However, I'd probably recommend a Q9550 or something of that sort, also Intel quads that perform well, but the end price will be in your range:

Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 Yorkfield 2.83GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor - Processors - Desktops


Newegg.com - BIOSTAR TForce TP45HP LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards


Newegg.com - G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Desktop Memory - Desktop Memory


Newegg.com - CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX 550W ATX12V V2.2 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Power Supplies


Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE 100265HDMI Radeon HD 4830 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards


Newegg.com - ASUS VW224U Black 22" 2ms(GTG) Widescreen LCD Monitor w/ HDCP Support 300 cd/m2 1000:1 (ASCR 5000:1) Built in Speakers - LCD Monitors


Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive - Internal Hard Drives


Newegg.com - LG Black 22X DVD Burner

And a mid range case of your choice. I'd recommend the Antec 300, RC 690, Antec 900, NZXT Tempest.

That'll be just under 1000 bucks and will be a good performing computer.
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Cool, I was wondering though, what is the difference between say the i7 and the Q9550? Just want to learn a little bit more, this stuff is interesting.

Also the PSU. You guys have recommended a few different ones, and I have heard that is one of the most underestimated part of the system. How do you guys go about choosing the right one?

And now that you guys have helped me past the hardware, I was wondering, do you guys recommend something like overclocking? I have read a little bit about it and it seems like a good idea, as long as you are careful

Also, would it be worth it for me to spend the extra $50 to get 8 GB ram?

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Also, if I was willing to spend the extra $$$ would it be worth it to have the i7 over the Q9550. I compiled two wish lists on newegg, one with the Q9550 and 4GB Ram Q9550 (Also with this build I can get the motherboard and processor from Portatech for $300 Here. So it would be about $100 cheaper than the price on the wishlist.

Here is the i7 build, 6GB Ram. Here
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