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Old 01-25-2015, 01:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Budget Rig for $500 US Ish?

So my system specs should be listed, but, I want to know - is it possible to build a Budget Rig today with only about $500?

Reason is... let's face it, my rigs nearly 6 Years old. It's put up a good fight, but the world is pushing me away from my desk, so I plan to sell it.

I want to know just how it stacks up to budget rigs though, if a $500 PC can outperform my PC, then I have no right asking for $500 for it, ya know?

So.... think it's possible? I am crazy out of date with tech. I didn't even know DDR4 came out, or even USB3.0 becoming mainstream.

Oh and were gonna leave the HAF 932 out of this, so "caseless" PC budget rig.
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Old 01-25-2015, 08:33 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Budget Rig for $500 US Ish?

You can update what you already have by just getting a better video card and an SSD hard drive You should be able to easily run that 920 @ 3.2 - 3.4 or even higher with a cpu better cooler. If you want USB 3.0, they do make pcie add on cards. DDR4 is very pricey and will be for a while until it becomes more popular
For My i7 920, I added a sata III pcie card for my SSD drive, my old & tired X58 board only provided sata II
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Old 01-25-2015, 10:39 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Budget Rig for $500 US Ish?

I think a good question for this is, are you wanting to game on your rig or just have an internet box?
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Old 01-25-2015, 02:58 PM   #4 (permalink)
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@Joe C - that... wasn't the issue. I am not trying to upgrade, I am trying to find value.

@PP Mguire - basically to make the best PC one can for around the $500 marker (no case, no moni, no keyboard/mouse etc, just case guts) To see if an = or better build could be done.

I plan to sell this one is why. Personal reasons. I want to ask for what the parts cost "today" as if they were buying them to build this rig, but I want to weigh that option against current tech, hence the "budget rig" setting.

Explaination: My PC Guts cost around $500 to replace, this is Motherboard, CPU, RAM, HDD, GPU and PSU. IF a "budget rig" could be made for $500, and perform just as well , if not better, I won't ask for $500 for it.

Why?
Because it's almost 6 years old of near constant-on use and newer tech is available with similar performance, at similar price to replace, but would be new with warranties.

Right now this system plays the Alpha Release of H1Z1 and Landmark, although on lower/med settings, so I am trying to see if a budget rig can do roughly the same.


We can look at it another way if you want.
What GPU would be an upgrade, keeping in mind these few things:
1) It has to be supported by the 2.0x16 slot motherboard (Asus P6T Deluxe)
2) It cannot cost more than $100
3) It has to have DirectX 11 or better
4) It must benchmark = or > the current HD4890 XXX edition
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Old 01-25-2015, 03:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
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500 bucks would be a better choice to spend on your current rig honestly. You could put a GTX 970 in there, a 2GB stick of RAM and maybe a 120GB SSD and call it a day. Reason being, resale value isn't going to be much on your parts. Your PSU could still last you another 5 years or 2 builds depending on what you do easy, your HDD is fine for a data drive, RAM perfectly fine for modern builds except maybe 2 more GB, but the CPU/motherboard and GPU aren't worth much. I'd give 150 tops for the CPU and motherboard. 150 would get you a Pentium G3258, which while faster in certain circumstances wouldn't be much of an "upgrade" in other areas that will take advantage of more cores.

Now, IF you could get say 400 bucks total for your rig the way it sits minus case and add 500 to that you could build a better rig than you have now easy in terms of CPU/ect performance but if you want to game the wise option would be to use that 500 on what I said earlier.
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Old 01-25-2015, 03:25 PM   #6 (permalink)
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For the last time, I am not "Upgrading" this rig.

I have already priced each part based on current sales, eBay and more to get average values.

I am SELLING this system. (I will be jobless, homeless and on the road soon) I just want to be fair to the friend I am selling it to.

If I sell him this rig for $500, and it turns out he could have built better for $500 I would feel guilty.

Can we please drop the "upgrade your system instead" option? I am trying to use my current setup as a reference point to see if a Budget Rig can be built for him cheaper.

For those interested, these are the values I've found:
CPU: $50
GPU: $65
RAM: $67
PSU: $50
HDD: $44
Mobo:$180 *having a hard time finding 1366 boards to compare with
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Old 01-25-2015, 04:50 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Sorry I didn't really quite understand what you meant at first but now I do. This is the kind of rig you'll get for about 500 without OS today.

Intel Pentium G3258 Haswell Dual-Core 3.2GHz LGA 1150 53W Desktop Processor BX80646G3258 - Newegg.com
ASUS H81M-E LGA 1150 Intel H81 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Newegg.com
G.SKILL NS Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C11D-8GNS - Newegg.com
EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 02G-P4-3751-KR G-SYNC Support 2GB Video Card - Newegg.com
CORSAIR CX series CX500 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com
Seagate ST310005N1A1AS-RK 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive Retail kit - Newegg.com
NZXT Source 210 S210-001 Black “Aluminum Brush / Plastic” ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Newegg.com

In terms of just gaming it'll do better than your rig. Basic internet, Youtube, ect ect. It'll be a lot snippier. Video editing, rendering, transcoding, that i7 920 will walk all over the Pentium. The Pentium setup has good upgradability though where as you found out 1366 is very dead. So honestly it's up to you and your bud.
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I think $500 is fair. In fact I know places that would probably sell that for more than $500. I see computers with i3's and Core 2 DUO's sell for close that. Like the $250-$400 range, so my guess is that if you have an i7 with all the other stuff you mentioned in it, it should be worth at least $500. He may be able to get parts somewhere cheaper, but it would take lot's of research and time and then he'd have to put it together (which I admit, I enjoy doing) but if he is looking for a decent rig for a decent price which is already assembled then I'd say don't feel bad.
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It takes a 10 minute Youtube video to put it together.

The reason you see old PCs going for that is the same discussion we had with Spud about selling XP computers today. People do it because they can get away with it. The difference here is he doesn't want to rip off his friend which is why I said it's up to him. The 490 dollar build I linked, or his build for 500.
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Old 01-27-2015, 03:53 PM   #10 (permalink)
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TY very much for the details guys. I can now make a better detailed discussion with him.

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Well 1 long phone conversation later and he said "no deal". Sooo..

I guess I'll do some upgrading eh?

Quickly referencing concerns:
Will GPUs sporting DX11.2 upgrade to DX12?
Will GPU PCIe3.0 work in a 2.0 slot?

It's been too many years and I am way out of date.

I did find some 6GB more ram for around $50, same voltage, speed, slightly different timings (mine are 7 7 7 24, cas 7 which... are pretty dam fantastic apparently)
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