lol. well thanks for the opinion. i've had two athlon machines and really wasn't that impressed (even though I know you all will probably think i'm nuts saying that). I'm sticking with Intel primarily because when i buy intel, i know what i'm buying. all through school it was intel that was emphasized. with them i at least know what i'm buying, but with Athlon, i have to have someone there telling me which is the best processor to get. i chose Xeon over P4 because even though it runs hot, i've got a strong water cooling system and plan to run a server in addition to the games. so far my research indicates for dedicated servers, Xeon out performs the other Intel processors.