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Old 02-25-2009, 06:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Antec900 C2Q rig needs upgrade.....

OK, so it's time to upgrade my computer again.... It doesn't HAVE to be done, but it's going to happen. The back-story here is that my girl's computer is pretty old, and she is a Sims player, and Sims 2 doesn't run really well on her current setup. I am going to be building a rig for her with mostly spare parts that I have. I have a spare E6750 C2D, a motherboard my buddy is giving me, a new 500 Gig SATA drive, and I will be using the X1950XT and the CORSAIR CMPSU-520HX out of my current setup. The only thing I will need to purchase for her is RAM, which is dirt cheap for 2 Gigs, so no big deal.

That is going to leave me without a PSU for my computer, as well as no GPU!!! Oops. Well, that sounds like as good an excuse as any for an upgrade to ME!

FIRST, I need to figure on a GPU. I am going to be getting an ATI card, not NVIDIA. I am considering something in the 4870 series at the moment. I am not sure if I will go 4870x2, or 2 4870's in Crossfire. The price is NEARLY identical either way. I think the limiting factor will be the cards physical size. Right now, I have an X1950XT, and still has some room between it and my hard drives. The limited research I was able to do just now (at work, MANY sites blocked) tells me that the 4870 cards are not as long as the 4870x2's. Can anyone confirm this for me?

Right now, I am running a 19"LCD, with a CRT that is also 19" I think. I have a 3rd CRT that I would LIKE to hook up which is between 17-19". I LOVE the dual monitor setup, watching a movie on one screen, and doing whatever else on the other.

Here is what I have found:

X1950XT Width: 242mm, Height: 127mm, Depth: 40mm
4870 x2 Width: 281mm, Height: 126mm, Depth: 40mm
4870 Width: 220mm, Height: 100mm, Depth: 33mm

what card OEM's do you guys recommend on ATI cards?


Once I get that all sorted out, I will need to deciede on a new PSU. Will need to support:
Q9550 (or maybe it's a Q9650... I am so tired right now it isn't even funny)...
GA-X38-DQ6
4 x SATA HDD's - 7200 rpm
1 SATA DVD burner
PS2 keyboard
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USB webcam
I think thats about it.
Looking for something modular too. And I have no fan hole in the bottle of my case, so a fan would need to be on top (I know, put it in upside down), just not sure what effect it woud have on dual fan PSU, or if it would fit due to fan grille.
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The 4870's aren't nearly as long as the x2 so if length is a concern crossfire is probably the way to go.

XFX is probably the best ATI oem because of their double lifetime waranty but they are also more expensive.

Newegg.com - XFX HD-487A-YDDC Radeon HD 4870 XXX 512MB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Low Profile Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards

This HIS is currently the cheapest HD4870 on newegg.

Newegg.com - HIS Hightech H487FN512P Radeon HD 4870 512MB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards
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Default Re: Antec900 C2Q rig needs upgrade.....

Wow.... have I not been paying attention to hardware that long, or am I that tired....? When did XFX start making ATI cards? I thought they only did NVIDIA cards...?

I think the x2 is out then, since the single is shorter. Also, big performance difference between the 512MB and the 1 Gig models? Price difference is $35...

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I think the difference between the two of them is 1GB is better for monitors with higher resolution. I would go for the 1GB if it is only $35 more.
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Default Re: Antec900 C2Q rig needs upgrade.....

Upon further review, I will get ONE 4870 now, and plan on another in the future, with a larger display. I will still want a PSU that can support both cards though. Anyone have recomendations on a PSU dr C2Q, 2 4870'?? I was thinking Corsair.
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This will do:
Newegg.com - CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Power Supplies
has 4 x 6+2 PCI-E connectors, so you'll be ready for two 4870s
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veedub is selling a 4870 for $125.
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Default Re: Antec900 C2Q rig needs upgrade.....

Thanks for the info guys. I was hoping to get another of the HX series from Corsair to have the modular cables, but the only choices are 620W and 1000W.... Oh well. $89.99 after $25 MIR isn't bad at ALL. I guess I have to put the purchase in today or tomorrow morning.

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corsair is not the only modular psu maker:

Newegg.com - SILVERSTONE ST70F 700W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Power Supplies

Thats what i run...solid psu.
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New parts are on the way... Due to arrive tomorrow. The ONLY part that won't be here tomorrow is the TRUE for my girls system.

When all is said and done, there will be 2 computers, one of which going to my girl.

MINE:
Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-X38-DQ6
Processor: Intel Q9550
CPU Cooling: TRUE (MX-2 & 2 Scythe SFF21D)
Memory : Crucial Ballistix 4GB (4x1GB) DDR 800
Video Card: XFX 4870 1 Gig
Power Supply: SILVERSTONE ST70F - 700W
Hard Drive: 4x Seagate 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500 GB
Optical: ASUS DRW-2014L1T
Case: Antec Nine Hundred

HERS:
Motherboard: Intel DG965WH
Processor: Intel E6750
CPU Cooling: TRUE (MX-2 & 2 Scythe DFS122512L)
Memory : Patriot Viper 4GB (2x2GB) DDR 800
Video Card: HIS Radeon X1950XT
Power Supply: CORSAIR CMPSU-520HX - 520W
Hard Drive: 1x Seagate 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500 GB
Optical: Plextor PX-712SA/SW-BL, and an old DVD-ROM drive I have
Case: Chieftec Dragon

Thats 2 pretty nice systems. Kind of funny that I had just about all the parts laying around for BOTH of them.
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