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Old 07-29-2010, 12:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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i have been trying to do some research on what would be some good compnents to get but it is a little over my head. i am not much of a gamer, i am looking for a computer to play starcraft 2 and diablo 3 on but besides that i dont think i will be playing too many games. this computer is going to be used more for music production and recording. at this point in time i will not be buying a video or sound card, ill get thos later. im looking at getting a good cpu and motherboard with a good amount of ram. i would like to keep it around $700, any and all help is greatly appreciated.
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I put this one together earlier for someone else, but it should work for you, too. You won't be playing any games of consequence (including SC2 or Diablo 3) w/o a video card.

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
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Antec New Solution VSK2450 Black ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 450W Power Supply

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OCZ Reaper 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2000 (PC3 16000) Desktop Memory Model OCZ3RPR2000LV4GK
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Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

$165 w/$20 MIR card

AMD Athlon II X4 635 Propus 2.9GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor ADX635WFGIBOX
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MSI 870-G45 AM3 AMD 870 ATX AMD Motherboard

$154

Newegg.com - XFX HD-577A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
$170

Newegg.com - LITE-ON Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Writer - Bulk - LightScribe Support - CD / DVD Burners
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Newegg.com - Sunbeam CR-CCTF 120 mm Core-Contact Freezer CPU Cooler W/TX-2
$40 w/$15 MIR

Total = $734 w/$35 in rebates
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Old 07-29-2010, 03:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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i plan on getting the video and sound cards later what i want to do is build a good computer without them for around 700 then invest in the cards later on.

EDIT: also i can get windows 7 and all office stuff for dirt cheap at my school so those are not part of the 700 either. i have been looking at this case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811133176 anyone know anything about this particular case or brand?
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Thermaltake tends to be a good brand. Google 'thermaltake armor90 review' to see what the professional reviewers think of it. Works for any piece of electronics.
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Most motherboards come with pretty decent on-board sound nowadays, whether you want it or not.

You may as well go with Trotters setup.You have 2 choices, pay for a decent card now or pay more for a motherboard that has a cheap built-in video option. The problem with the built-in video option is the motherboard itself isn't going to be a "Good" one. Most motherboards with built-in Video are designed for office workstations (clerical) and they offer very few if any performance options.

If you wanted to shave a few dollars off of Trotters setup you can drop the Sunbeam Core-Contact Cooler as the CPU will come with a stock heatsink.
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that hdd is one of western digital's "green" drives which = somewhat slower drive. look into this drive
Newegg.com - SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
it will be faster and save you like $5.

and save your $15 and just get the i5 750
Newegg.com - Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor BX80605I5750
all they did was raise its multiplier by 1, so it gets a 140mhz increase which is practically nothing compared to what it can really do with a good cooler when you OC yourself.
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Most motherboards come with pretty decent on-board sound nowadays, whether you want it or not.

You may as well go with Trotters setup.You have 2 choices, pay for a decent card now or pay more for a motherboard that has a cheap built-in video option. The problem with the built-in video option is the motherboard itself isn't going to be a "Good" one. Most motherboards with built-in Video are designed for office workstations (clerical) and they offer very few if any performance options.

If you wanted to shave a few dollars off of Trotters setup you can drop the Sunbeam Core-Contact Cooler as the CPU will come with a stock heatsink.

I'm sorry Slaymate. For most people (games or movies) onboard sound is just fine, but, there is a clear and distinguishable difference between even cheap discrete sound cards and onboard sound.

Try running 24 tracks playback simultaneously on an onboard soundcard and see how quickly the computer eats that buffer and the onboard sound chokes. With an onboard solution you're almost required to set the buffer length to some insane number (like 250ms or such). With an Asus Xonar, or Sound Blaster X-fi you can run it at or near 0ms. Not to mention ASIO drivers sound 100x better than any DirectX will ever sound (on a good set of speakers at least).

But I guess if you're not recording/creating music on the system onboard isn't going to have any issues
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well i still have like 50 bucks that i can spend is there anything worth up grading?
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you could get that cooler Trotter suggested before,
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with the seperate retention bracket required for an lga1156 board.
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