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Old 06-21-2010, 03:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello everyone! Im new to the forums and looks like a great one, gonna spend my time on here now.



Well im going to the USA(im from Mexico), and im planing to buy the parts on compusa, since i can't order online, and compusa seems to be the best bet on retail store. Im going to Houston or San Antonio. I heard theres a microcenter in Houston, but on their online site they dont have any processors on sale???




Gonna use it for Gaming>Internet>Office applications(word).

I have a HAF 932 case, an ATI 5850 Twin Frozr II videocard from MSI, mouse,keyboard, OS.

I buy from Compusa(preferred) Microcenter(I dont know 100% if im going to Houston).

I have always used Intel, but im open to the AMD Phenoms II x4 and x6.

OVERCLOCKING: Yes, if the motherboard has the option, such as ASUS Turbo,MSI oc Genie or the one from Gygabyte... if the motherboard doesn't has any automatic overclocking then no.

I have an ATI 5850 Twin Frozr II videocard from MSI, and im buying a second one in 2 years, approx.

My monitor is 1920x1080 LG 32" model 32LH40


-PSU modular IF possible, crossfire ready, and silent(i had an ocz stealth x stream 700 watts, very good psu BUT at load is noisy, and even after i finished gaming the psu didnt want to idle and kept at load noise.

-My max is around $800 with taxes.

-A heatsink fan(no V8 OR V10)


I came up with this build:

CPU(worth to pay $20 more to get the 3.4ghz version?):
CompUSA.com | HDZ955FBGMBOX | AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Quad Core CPU

Motherboard:
CompUSA.com | 890FXA-GD70 | MSI 890FXA-GD70 Motherboard

Memory:
CompUSA.com | TW3X4G1333C9A | Corsair XMS3 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 RAM

Power supply(worth to pay $10 more to get the 850 watts version?):
CompUSA.com | LZ-750 | Kingwin LAZER 750W Power Supply

Hard Drive(worth to pay$10 more to get 750gb version?) :
CompUSA.com | ST3500418AS | Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB Hard Drive

CD/DVD drive:
CompUSA.com | IHAS22406 | Lite-On IHAS22406 Internal DVD Writer

Heatsink(is it good?):
CompUSA.com | RR-920-N520-GP | Cooler Master Hyper N520 CPU Cooler

TOTAL: $690


Notes: I choose that motherboard because it has nice features like 3.u usb and the pci express slots...i can use corssfire both at x16 and even throw a Physx card.

I just noticed it has OC Genite Lite applicable from BIOS, but it also has some buttons on the bottom of the motherboard to crank it up.



Now that i think c3 version of 955 will be enough...siince it will be overclocked by the motherboard to around 3.6 ghz.
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Old 06-21-2010, 05:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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CPU(worth to pay $20 more to get the 3.4ghz version?):
CompUSA.com | HDZ955FBGMBOX | AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Quad Core CPU
no, it isn't worth it.

if you're still willing to spend some more money though, you could get a 6 core.
CompUSA.com | HDT55TFBGRBOX | AMD Phenom II 1055T Six Core Processor

for the same price (not including the rebate from the ram you listed), you should get this set instead.
CompUSA.com | OCZ3G1600LV4GK | OCZ PC3-12800 Gold RAM
runs at a faster 1600mhz with tighter cas8 timings.

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Power supply(worth to pay $10 more to get the 850 watts version?):
CompUSA.com | LZ-750 | Kingwin LAZER 750W Power Supply
kingwin isn't exactly known for good psus. i would say skip it, and get this one instead.
CompUSA.com | DA700 | Silverstone Decathlon DA700 ATX 700W Power Supply
same price, fully modular, and it will handle your rig even with dual 5850's just fine.

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Hard Drive(worth to pay$10 more to get 750gb version?) :
CompUSA.com | ST3500418AS | Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB Hard Drive
if you want a 500gb, get this one, it's 5 bucks cheaper.
CompUSA.com | WD5000AAKS | Western Digital WD5000AAKS Caviar Blue Hard Drive

is the extra $ worth it for the 750gb? i guess that partly depends on how much space you think you'll need, so it's up to you.
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Old 06-21-2010, 06:41 PM   #3 (permalink)
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1.- Was checking benchmarks and for gaming a 955 BE seems to do a better job, however the difference in fps is minimal. Im used to download 2gb+ files and at the same time willing to play video games, so a 6 core processor might come in handy there...@2.8 ghz it can be automatically overclocked to around 3.2 with the motherboard I choose.

2.- KK, will change the ram.


3.- Nice psu, will get it.

4.- Is that a good hard drive? if i get that $5 cheaper ram and that $5 cheaper HD it can justify me getting a 6 core processor.

my current pc has a 320 gb and it hardly goes below 100gb.
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4.- Is that a good hard drive? if i get that $5 cheaper ram and that $5 cheaper HD it can justify me getting a 6 core processor.
yea that hdd is fine.

i hadn't realized the ram i listed was $5 cheaper lol, but the fact that it is just makes it that much better.

the rest of your build looks good.
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Old 07-10-2010, 03:59 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Well im buying the pc before this month ends, and these are the new changes I made, I just need an input:

Gonna use it for Gaming>Internet>Office applications(word).

I have a HAF 932 case, an ATI 5850 Twin Frozr II videocard from MSI, mice,keyboard,OS.

Im buying from www.ewiz.com , bought the 5850 from them and everything is perfect.

I have always used Intel, but im open to the AMD Phenoms II x4 and x6.

OVERCLOCKING: Yes, if the motherboard has the option, such as ASUS Turbo,MSI oc Genie or the one from Gygabyte... if the motherboard doesn't has any automatic overclocking then no.

I have an ATI 5850 Twin Frozr II videocard from MSI, and im buying a second one in 2 years, approx.

My monitor is 1920x1080 LG 32" model 32LH40


-PSU modular IF possible, crossfire ready, and silent(i had an ocz stealth x stream 700 watts, very good psu BUT at load is noisy, and even after i finished gaming the psu didnt want to idle and kept at load noise.

-My max is around $750(on cart without counting shipping...shipping to were I live is $90 but it's safe and it arrives in 3 days, I live @ Mexico and this is the best option for me).

-A heatsink fan(no V8 OR V10, they r too big)


Well the build is:

CPU+mobo combo for $329.98
https://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name...GHz-AM3-Retail

https://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name...TX-Motherboard

Memory+Hard Drive combo $169.98
https://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name...nel-Memory-Kit

https://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name...2MB-Hard-Drive

Power supply $116.99
https://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name...w-Blue-LED-Fan

Heatsink $29.99
https://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name...A1366-AMD-AM2-

Drive $22.74
https://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name...ive-Black-Bulk

Total: $655.68

Meaning I got an extra $100 to spare on the build.

Besides the build critique, I got a few questions:

Phenom II x4 is better than Phenom II x6 at gaming BUT Phenom II x6 is more futureproof I believe....but my main concern is something about overclock:

1.-Says it got some type of turboboost like Intel but it says it will only turboboost 3 cores?

2.-(relationed to the above question) Isn't that bad for the few games that use 4 cores?

3.-What happens if I do automatic overclock with the motherboard Turvo of ASUS from 2.8ghz to 3.2ghz....will the turboboost temporary increase frequency to 3.4ghz?

4.-About the motherboard I choose...the crossfire does x8/x8 and I found it's only a 1% performance lose over x16/x16...is this true?

5.-[]Will I benefit from sparing those extra $100 on the Crosshair Formula IV? If not where should I?

6.-Is 750 watts overkill for 5850 crossfire in the future or is 650 watts enough(since im overclocking automaticly to 3.4ghz with motherboard) more than enough?

And thanks again
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Above post has been updated, please I need help.
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