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Old 08-18-2008, 10:45 PM   #51 (permalink)
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probably because less strain on the NB and also they're arent really any good 2x2gb kits out there. Most of them use Powerchip IC's. I have 4x1gb but I only use 2 right now because I know w/ 4 I won't be able to clock as high
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If you or anyone else bought an AMD quad cored cpu right now and OCed it like 20-30%, you wouldn't be able to feel the difference to a intel quad core CPU OCed the Same percentage.
But ATM Intel is the better buy. how many phenoms can get to 3.6ghz almost guaranteed with a low amount of voltage and can get to 4ghz often like the q6600 can?

But ya, I don't want to sound like maroon1 too much defending Intel to the end. Honestly for gaming I don't feel much of a difference between my quad at 2.4 -> 3.8ghz. Maybe programs open a fraction of a second earlier but I could get by easily on a AMD quad core no problem.
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from 2.4 to 3.6 i felt a difference w/ apps.
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But ATM Intel is the better buy. how many phenoms can get to 3.6ghz almost guaranteed with a low amount of voltage and can get to 4ghz often like the q6600 can?

But ya, I don't want to sound like maroon1 too much defending Intel to the end. Honestly for gaming I don't feel much of a difference between my quad at 2.4 -> 3.8ghz. Maybe programs open a fraction of a second earlier but I could get by easily on a AMD quad core no problem.
Hardly any Q6600's new do that anymore.. they now overclock like Phenoms dude...

Too much popularity is a bad thing! Most of their batches are now high VID's, so find a used one if you want one that overclocks well
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from 2.4 to 3.6 i felt a difference w/ apps.
Ya, actually I did not realize a difference between 3.6 and 3.8, which isn't surprising... nvm forget it :snob:. In games I didn't though.
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Hardly any Q6600's new do that anymore.. they now overclock like Phenoms dude...

Too much popularity is a bad thing! Most of their batches are now high VID's, so find a used one if you want one that overclocks well
Your telling me if people buy q6600's now they can't hit 3.6ghz with a $30 xigmatek heatsink? Idk if I believe that.
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Ya, actually I did not realize a difference between 3.6 and 3.8, which isn't surprising... nvm forget it :snob:. In games I didn't though.

Your telling me if people buy q6600's now they can't hit 3.6ghz with a $30 xigmatek heatsink? Idk if I believe that.
Yep its true, not without pumping some good voltage, check out the really recent overclock threads with the Q6600.
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it's true most of the later batches only do like 3.4-3.6ghz...I've had about 4 of the newer ones and they weren't bad but certainly not spectacular.
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it's true most of the later batches only do like 3.4-3.6ghz...I've had about 4 of the newer ones and they weren't bad but certainly not spectacular.
I'm at a point where I'm just going to recommend the Xeon counterpart of the Q6600, or just recommend dual-core
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it's true most of the later batches only do like 3.4-3.6ghz...I've had about 4 of the newer ones and they weren't bad but certainly not spectacular.
With "ok" voltages and a decent air cooler? Because then that's not too bad.
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I'm at a point where I'm just going to recommend the Xeon counterpart of the Q6600, or just recommend dual-core
The Xeon counterparts are the same.....and I would recommend a 45nm dual core anyway.

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With "ok" voltages and a decent air cooler? Because then that's not too bad.
I was under water but temps were not a problem...highest voltage for 3.6ghz was 1.49v

These were all 1.3250 or 1.3125 VID chips.
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