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Old 11-19-2007, 06:07 AM   #41 (permalink)
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2 reviews from 2 of the most repuatable review sites out there.
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well i get alot of reviews from anandtech and they seem to be accurate imo
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yes thats exactly what im saying, and old cpu X can beat a new cpu Y so a newer version with higher clocks and fsb of X will have a fair beating on cpu Y
Which is:
a) besides the point
and b) doesn't take into consideration the higher-end chips, which AMD still have yet to release

in regards to a)
If your definition of a "sound beating" is not based on performance difference, then it's probably not a good measurement. And is not likely to get people to agree with you.

in regards to b)
* the processors have only been out one day.
* Phenom quad's have reached 3GHZ stably on pretty standard air cooling
* the only reason they're not clocking higher right now, is because of a bug. Phenom FX's were going to be released at 3GHZ.
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well that's what happened with the x2 chips...they raped Intel.
reason my close friend chose AMD over Intel because of this.

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yes thats exactly what im saying, and old cpu X can beat a new cpu Y so a newer version with higher clocks and fsb of X will have a fair beating on cpu Y
because Intel has more R&D n more budget into their processors then AMD. I'm just still surprised AMD didnt kick Intel's quad-core processors n they just got reviewed in less then a day.

Heck, we dont even know if the thermal compound n heatsink was high quality on the Phenoms, so they can probably reach higher clocks then what we r seeing here. The thermal compound, heatsink, n the bug on the 9700 is the only thing i see choking the Phenoms, according to these 2 reviews. The 125w consumption from 90w makes the 9700 intrigingly differ from the 9500 n 9600 n still questionable.

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the only reason they're not clocking higher right now, is because of a bug. Phenom FX's were going to be released at 3GHZ.
according to dailytech n theinquirer, only the 9700 is infected n reason that it was delayed until december. It performed ok, but is questionable about the 125w consumption that i just cant stop thinking about from the 9500 n 9600 90w consumption. It's like 100MHz differ from each other n the 9700 consumes a whole lot more power? Something is up with it n i can smell it.
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Which is:
a) besides the point
and b) doesn't take into consideration the higher-end chips, which AMD still have yet to release

in regards to a)
If your definition of a "sound beating" is not based on performance difference, then it's probably not a good measurement. And is not likely to get people to agree with you.

in regards to b)
* the processors have only been out one day.
* Phenom quad's have reached 3GHZ stably on pretty standard air cooling
* the only reason they're not clocking higher right now, is because of a bug. Phenom FX's were going to be released at 3GHZ.

*if there is a bug they why release them? bad move?
*what, a q6600 cant get to 3.5ghz+?

a) I dont understand how is that besides the point, that was the body of my argument
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*if there is a bug they why release them? bad move?
Haven't you heard? they didn't release them. The ones with the bug, anyway.

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*what, a q6600 cant get to 3.5ghz+?
You're assuming Phenom's won't be able to.
After less than a day after they're out, and after some of the chips got delayed from a bug.

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a) I dont understand how is that besides the point, that was the body of my argument
It's besides the point, because it's not about performance difference. It's misleading.
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hrmm in reguards to 3.6 on air w/ little or no extra voltage.. that is a bold faced lie!!! lol

and i must say.. i'm sad that its come to this.. but i'm happy to say.. i went w/ the right cpu
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hrmm in reguards to 3.6 on air w/ little or no extra voltage.. that is a bold faced lie!!! lol

and i must say.. i'm sad that its come to this.. but i'm happy to say.. i went w/ the right cpu
did u at first want to get a Phenom? I thought i remember u wanting one a month or so back.

better change ur thing from AMD/ATI techie to Intel/Nvidia techie now lol.

ok im really going to bed this time, i need my sleep!
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ya.. i really did want to stick w/ amd and ati... they are my fav no doubt.. but.. i have to go w/ what is going to make me kick some ***... and i must say this q6600 and 8800gtx are really doing the trick.. i've never seen games run so smooth ever in my life...

its crazy playing css at 1920x1200 w/ 16xQ SCAA and 16x AF and averaging 100fps and over at every level.. just amazing
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Haven't you heard? they didn't release them. The ones with the bug, anyway.

You're assuming Phenom's won't be able to.
After less than a day after they're out, and after some of the chips got delayed from a bug.

It's besides the point, because it's not about performance difference. It's misleading.
i didnt no about the ones had bugs.

i did not assume that they wouldnt get to 3.5GHz+ i am just saying even if a phenom gets stable at 3GHz a q6600 can reach 3.5GHz relatively easy.
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