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Old 08-24-2005, 01:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
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ok, im trying to put together a decent, medium-caliber computer.

some gaming, but no BF2 on high, more like Age of empires 3 on low.


my budget is about 580 USD, no higher whatsoever.

so this is what i got sofar.


this case, many spots for fans...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811209010


hitachi 80gb internal HD 7200 rpm 8 mb cache

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822145082


ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe Socket A (Socket 462) NVIDIA nForce2 Ultra 400 ATX AMD Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131478


eVGA 128-A8-N350 Geforce 6600GT 128MB 128-bit GDDR3 AGP 4X/8X Video Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130220


AMD Athlon XP 2800+ Barton 333MHz FSB 512KB L2 Cache Socket A Processor

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103377

this is what i got.

it comes out to 500 bucks, 100 less than what i said was my money, but i still need to hook it up to a wireless network because the cable modem's accross the house, and for that i need router/WAC

also

what do i need ot hook the computer up to a wireless network?

a card?

and i still need a dvd-rom (can a dvd rom play cd's and games AND dvd's)

a floppy drive

and mabe a few other fans.

THanks, this is what i have lined up, comments and constructive critisizm much appriciated.

ALSO can i reuse the Windows XP home and microsoft office that came with my current dell dimention 2400, which was incidentaly purchased october of 2003 (if you need to know)???

if not...i think this whole thing might be off becuase of lack of funding.

thanks a lot.
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i have used win xp from previous computers...but those old computers arent used nemore...Yes, dvd-roms will read any cd format.....and actually i think u can play BF2 pretty well on that system...cept...u may need RAM lol...
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I have ram...did i not list the ram?

pqi TURBO 512MB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) System Memory

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820141123

yeah that....

other comments welcome.
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ASPIRE X-Dreamer II ATXB4KLW-BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 420W Power Supply-56
AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice Socket 939 Processor-146
CHAINTECH VNF4/Ultra Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard-80
Get your ram-56
Western Digital Caviar SE WD800JD 80GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive-53
NEC Black IDE DVD Burner Model ND-3540A-45
eVGA 6600GT 128MB DDR3/PCI-E/TV-Out/Dual-DVI-154


Total $590, when you get more money, upgrade to 1GB, another stick of 512, and be sure to buy arctic silver 5 thermal compound, but until than the stock will work. Also, the case comes with a crappy psu, but when you can afford, get a new one.

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ASPIRE X-Dreamer II ATXB4KLW-BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 420W Power Supply-56
AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice Socket 939 Processor-146
CHAINTECH VNF4/Ultra Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard-80
Get your ram-56
Western Digital Caviar SE WD800JD 80GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive-53
NEC Black IDE DVD Burner Model ND-3540A-45
eVGA 6600GT 128MB DDR3/PCI-E/TV-Out/Dual-DVI-154


Total $590, when you get more money, upgrade to 1GB, another stick of 512, and be sure to buy arctic silver 5 thermal compound, but until than the stock will work. Also, the case comes with a crappy psu, but when you can afford, get a new one.

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here some links

1) x-dreamer II case with 420W powe supply - 56
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811144026

2)AMD Athlon 64 3000+ - 146
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103537

3) Chaintech vNF4 ultra - 80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813152049

4)Corsair Valueselect 512MBx2 - 89
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145440

5) eVGA 6600GT pcie - 130
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch...e=nvidia-PCI-E

6) Western Digital Caviar 80GB SATA150 hdd - 53
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822135106

7) NEC Beige IDE DVD burner - 38
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827152039


592 dollars and just make sure to buy a new psu and a themaltake venus 12 fan, but stock is just fine


8) MASSCOOL 120mm case fan to put in the back - 5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835150052

i believe you can put 2 80s in the front

9) MASSCOOL 80mm case fan to put in the front - 2x2=4 dollars
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835150007

10) Aspire 20 pin to 24 pin power adapter - 4
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812201001

605 dollars with the 20 pin to 24 pin power adapter which i think you dont need but your mobo is 24 pin and your psu is 20 pin so just to be on the safe side

its 601 with the case fans and no power adapter
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If your really low and cant spend above 580 dollars then get this

1) Chaintech vNF4 ultra - 80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813152049

2) Aspire X-Dreamer II w/ 420W power supply - 56
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811144026

3) Corsair Valueselect 512MB - 50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145026
you can always buy another one later

4) Western Digital Caviar 80GB - 53
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822135106

5)Lite on black DVD drive - 20 dollars
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827131410

6) eVGA 6600GT pcie - 130 with mail in rebate
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch...e=nvidia-PCI-E

7)AMD athlon 64 3000+ - 146
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch...e=nvidia-PCI-E

8)MASSCOOL 120mm case fan - 5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835150052

9)MASSCOOL 80mm case fan- 2x2=4
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835150007

10) 20 pin to 24 pin power connector (YOU MAY OR MAY NOT NEED) - 5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812201001

11) Floppy Drive - 8
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16821103202

sorry for the mix and match of the color of the drives. but im just giving you a close range of what your going to buy and how much

557dollars is your total
thank you very much



need a wireless connection, i use this on my computer to hook to my wireless router
40 dollars after mail in rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833124126
hooks to a usb port

or if you want to use a pci slot
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833124104
very nice 15 dollars after mail in rebate

so a total of 581 dollars with a network pci adapter

you may want to use this network pci adapter 41 dollars after mail in rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833124115


you also need the wireless router. so i use the WRT54GS version but the WRT54G is perfectly fine
50 dollars after mail in rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833124010
defintely recommending this router and i use the usb adapter but you can use a pci one if you want too

close to around 650 dollars if you really need the wireless router and network adapter

EDIT: this would run Age of Empires 3 on med-high settings just to tell you
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you can use previous versions of WINDOWS XP HOME EDITION only unless you have a DIFFERENT cd key for XP PRO cause you can only use one cd key per computer. anyways i use the same cd key from my laptop or more of the product key on different computers and it works. and plus i can validate windows using the same one even if i did it like 20 times. SHHH!

EDIT: question are you going to be OCing cause if your not you dont need that many case fans the 2 stock ones are sufficent enough

EDIT:EDIT: Speculated Minimum System Requirements

Q: What are the system requirements of AoE III?
A: These are not confirmed, but the requirements will be something like this:

Minimum system requirements:

- Microsoft Windows 98, ME, 2000, XP
- 128 MB of RAM
- Pentium 800 MHz or equivalent
- 64 MB 3D video card
- 1.5 GB of free hard disk space
- 32x CD-ROM drive
- DirectX 8.0 compatible sound card
- 56 kbps Internet connection for online play

Recommended system requirements:

- 512 MB of RAM
- 2.0 Ghz CPU
- 128 MB 3D video card

taken from http://ageofempires3.filefront.com/info/AoE3FAQ
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Thanks a ton for all the links etc.

but...I cant go many cents over 600 overall, and the reason what i laid out originally was only at 500 was i need to use router/WAC to get online, and i didn't have a dvd drive or floppy (ppl still use it might as well get one)

i plan to pick up a cheap 17" LCD monitor used, if my dad can't hook me up with one; he says his work's recycling and giving away them all 'da time.

ram will be one of the thing i can easily upgrade to 1g, and i'll certainly do so in the coming months.

you say the PSU on that case isn't good. the reason i got that case was because the reviews on newegg said that the PSU was good.

how do you know it isnt any good, does the case damastarr linked to have a better PSU?

I dont plan to do much, if any OC'ing so, untill the heat levels start creeping up, i wont buy some more fans.

and for reusing winxp plus microsoft office, how do the discs know im reusing it. earlier this year we got a new hard drive and reinstalled everything, how did the discs know it wasnt another computer?

so i think that'l work.

Pzerofgh, what you put together is better than what i had, mostly since its athlon 64 instead of athlon xp, and the mobo has a pci-e slot instead of an agp slot, but unfortunatly that could come out to be 40 dollars out of my price range, which is the difference between the athlon xp cpu and the athlon 64 cpu

is the 64 all that better. sure its a bit faster but does that really matter?
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the 64 is 64 bit which is ready for windows vista or known as longhorn. the xp is only 32 bit.
the fsb is 333mhz compared to 1Ghz
you wont be able to upgrade casue there making only socket 939 and above. which then you would have to buy a whole New mobo and then processor and video card. so that would save you the hassale of not buying a whole new computer in a year or two and the 64 is better for games and is faster in the overall aspect

EDIT: if you really(i mean REALLY REALLY) want a socket A mobo and around 500 dollars, ill put up some more links for you
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1)Asus nF2 ultra mobo - 89
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131478

2)AMD athlon xp2800+ - 91
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103377


4)RAm Corsair valueselect - 50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145026

5)Aspire x-dreamer II - 56
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811144026

6)eVGA 6600GT - 130
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch...e=nvidia-PCI-E

7) Western Digital Caviar - 53
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822135106

8)Linksys WRT54G - 50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833124010

9)USB adapter - 40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833124126

10) lite on black DVD drive - 20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827131410

TOTAL PRICE AROUND - 579 dollars, which leaves you 1 dollar for a soda lol, theres also shipping which would be aroudn 20-30 dollars


EDIT: sorry forgot the floppy Drive

11) SAmsung floppy drive - 8
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16821103202

total 587
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