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Old 02-15-2014, 12:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I came here a few years ago for advice to build my first computer, I received great advice so Im back again looking to upgrade my system. Its main purpose in life is gaming. Below are my current specs.

I figure I need to upgrade/increase my ram, GPU, and possibly PSU. I also would like to finally get a SSD(tired of being the last person to load in BF4!).

I would like to keep my budget in the $800 range, that is flexible so open to better buys if its worth the $$$.

Any advice is much appreciated!


OS: Windows 7 64bit
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor

MB: ASUS M5A97 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0

PSU: Antec BP550 Plus 550W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power

GPU: AMD Radeon HD 6790 xfx

Ram: GSKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3

HD: Western Digital WD Black WD7502AAEX 750GB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard

Monitor: ASUS VH232H 23.4" (1920x1080)
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Old 02-15-2014, 01:23 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Newegg.com - EVGA ACX Cooler 03G-P4-2784-KR GeForce GTX 780 3GB 384-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 SLI Support Video Card
SeaSonic M12II 620 Bronze 620W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL - Newegg.com
Newegg.com - SAMSUNG 840 EVO MZ-7TE120BW 2.5" 120GB SATA III TLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

That'll keep you rockin for another few years. Just add that RAM to what you have to make 12GB.
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Old 02-18-2014, 09:40 AM   #3 (permalink)
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It would help knowing what kind of games you play to further assist you with this upgrade.

I personally wouldn't go with a 780 if you are still using the 965 CPU.
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The 965 is perfectly fine for current gaming.
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The 965 is perfectly fine for current gaming.
If by current you mean years ago.

Seriously though -- he plays BF4 any quad-core AMD CPU is going to have a hard time running that game efficiently. (more than 40 fps or so) depending on video quality..etc)
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While having 4 cores disabled with HT on using my 3960x and a 580 stock I get a solid 40+fps in BF4 at 1080p. With a 780 and a 965 he will be perfectly fine. No game is CPU demanding enough to actually warrant an upgrade from that platform right now, especially since he has 4 real cores.

That's like saying the first gen i7 in my laptop isn't sufficient for modern games yet I'm heavily GPU bottlenecked on it with a 460m. I know for a fact his 965be runs faster than my laptop's i7 so he will run BF4 absolutely fine. If you need further proof look at how an FX 4100 handles games today. A 965be is faster than an FX4100.
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I ran BF4 for a couple weeks off and on after release and from my personal experience the 8350 "8-core" I was using at the time paired with my 780 I could barely maintain 60fps on ultra. However some of the latter I5's and I7's have much better benchmarks on the game so far.

But with that being said, OP may not want to run on ultra.
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Indeed, but what resolution were you running, and what resolution scaling? Anything over 100% scaling eats any card. I was running a 680 with my 3960x and was only capable of 150% max with my "max fps to visual" setup. I maintained about 55fps with dips into the 45 range. My friends 4770k 780ti SLI setup with 2D Surround was getting about 5fps when resolution scale was set to 200% lol. Pretty terrible considering that's 1400 in GPUs.

i5s and i7s perform better due to their higher single threaded performance which is a given, but another thing is the beta and initial release had MUCH higher CPU usage due to debugging. The December patch eliminated this. My Youtube videos show a pretty large difference in frames while running in "dual core" mode with HT. The first being during the beta, the second being after the December patch.

I'm not saying he wouldn't benefit from getting something like a 4670k, but honestly it's not necessary. Especially if he wants to spend the cash on such a GPU.
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