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Old 05-21-2009, 12:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello, I am helping out my Dad with his computer which is running a bit slowly lately. He is low on storage space on his HD and can't correctly perform a disk defragmenter. I was hoping to persuade him to get another hard drive and update the RAM which ought to help him out. However, I am needing to find out what kind of RAM to get him. The information I found on the computer is as follows... Thank You.

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SiSoftware Sandra

System
Manufacturer : VIA Technologies, Inc.
Model : P4X266E-8235
ID : FFFFFFFF-FFFFFFFF-FFFFFFFF-FFFFFFFF

Mainboard
Multi-Processor (MP) Support : No
Model : P4X266E-8235
BIOS : 08/22/2002-P4X266E-8235-6A6LW00IC-00
Chipset : VIA P4X266/A

System Memory Controller
Location : Mainboard
Error Correction Capability : None
Number of Memory Slots : 3
Maximum Installable Memory : 768MB
Bank0/1 - A0 : None None None None DIMM 512MB
Bank2/3 - A1 : Empty
Bank4/5 - A2 : Empty

Chipset
Model : VIA VT8753 Apollo P4X266 System Controller
OEM Device Name : VIA VT8753 Apollo P4X266 System Controller
Revision : A2
Bus : Intel AGTL+
Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 100MHz (400MHz)
Maximum FSB Speed : 4x 100MHz (400MHz)
Width : 64-bit
I/O Queue Depth : 8 request(s)
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 3.13GB/s
Maximum Power : 3.50W

Chipset 1 Hub Interface
Type : V-Link
Width : 8-bit
Full Duplex : Yes
Multiplier : 2x
Speed : 4x 66MHz (264MHz)
I/O Queue Depth : 9 request(s)

Logical/Chipset Memory Banks
Bank 0 : 256MB DDR 2.5-3-3-7 2T
Bank 1 : 256MB DDR 2.5-3-3-7 2T
Supported Memory Types : ECC SDRAM DDR Registered
Bank Interleave : 4-way
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 133MHz (266MHz)
Maximum Memory Speed : 2x 133MHz (266MHz)
Multiplier : 4/3x
Width : 64-bit
Power Save Mode : No
Fixed Hole Present : No
Maximum Memory Bus Bandwidth : 2GB/s

Environment Monitor 1
Model : ITE 8693 ISA
Version : 9.00
Mainboard Specific Support : No

Cooling Device(s)
Auto Fan Speed Control : No
System Fan : 6683rpm
CPU Fan : 40909rpm

Voltage Sensor(s)
CPU DC Line : 1.69V
+3.3V DC Line : 3.14V
+5V DC Line : 5.15V
+12V DC Line : 4.82V
-12V DC Line : 0.17V

System Bus(es) on Hub 1
Version : 2.10
System Bus 0 : PCI
System Bus 1 : AGP
Multiplier : 1/3x

LPC Hub Controller 1
Model : VIA VT8235 PCI to ISA Bridge
OEM Device Name : VIA VT8235 PCI to ISA Bridge
Revision : A1
ACPI Power Management Enabled : Yes
Delayed Transaction Enabled : Yes

LPC Legacy Controller 1
Type : ITE IT8705F
Version : 0.05
Number of Enabled Devices : 8

Disk Controller
Model : VIA VT82Cxxxx EIDE Controller (All VIA Chipsets)
OEM Device Name : VIA VT82xxxx EIDE Controller (All VIA Chipsets)
Interface : ATA
Revision : A7
Channels : 4

Audio Device
Model : Biostar Microtech CMI8738/C3DX PCI Audio Device
OEM Device Name : C-Media Electronics CMI8738/C3DX PCI Audio Device
Revision : B1
Type : AC '97
Version : 2.04

Audio Codec
Model : Gammagraphx 0000h
Revision : A1
Version : 2.04

Audio Codec
Model : Gammagraphx 0000h
Revision : A1
Version : 2.01

USB Controller 1
Model : VIA VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (All VIA Chipsets)
OEM Device Name : VIA VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (All VIA Chipsets)
Revision : I1
Version : 1.10
Interface : UHCI
Channels : 2
Speed : 48MHz
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps) 
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 2
Model : VIA VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (All VIA Chipsets)
OEM Device Name : VIA VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (All VIA Chipsets)
Revision : I1
Version : 1.10
Interface : UHCI
Channels : 2
Speed : 48MHz
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps) 
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 3
Model : VIA VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (All VIA Chipsets)
OEM Device Name : VIA VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (All VIA Chipsets)
Revision : I1
Version : 1.10
Interface : UHCI
Channels : 2
Speed : 48MHz
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps) 
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 4
Model : VIA VT6202 USB 2.0 Enhanced Host Controller
OEM Device Name : VIA VT6202/12 USB 2.0 Enhanced Host Controller
Revision : I3
Version : 2.00
Specification : 1.00
Interface : EHCI
Channels : 6
Companion Controllers : 3
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps) High (480Mbps) 
Addressing Support : 32-bit
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

SMBus/i2c Controller 1
Model : VIA VT823x SMBus
Advanced TCO Mode Enabled : No
Slave Device Enabled : No
PEC Support : No
Speed : 14kHz

Expansion Slot(s)
PCI0 (1h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full-Length Available
PCI1 (2h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full-Length Used
PCI2 (3h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full-Length Available
PCI3 (4h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full-Length Available
PCI4 (5h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full-Length Available
AGP (8h) : AGP 32-bit +5V Full-Length Available

Port Connector(s)
PRIMARY IDE : ATA
SECONDARY IDE : ATA
FDD : 8251 FIFO / Floppy Disk
COM1 : Serial Port 16450 / 9 Pin Dual Inline / DB-9 pin male
COM2 : Serial Port 16450 / 9 Pin Dual Inline / DB-9 pin male
LPT1 : Parallel Port ECP/EPP / DB-25 pin female / DB-25 pin female
Keyboard : Keyboard / PS/2 / PS/2
PS/2 Mouse : Mouse / PS/2 / PS/2
USB : USB
AUDIO : Audio

Performance Tips
Notice 224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.
Tip 2511 : Some memory slots are free so the memory can be easily upgraded.
Warning 100 : Large memory sizes should be made of Registered/Buffered memory.
Tip 2546 : Large memory modules should be ECC/Parity.
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.
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Old 05-21-2009, 12:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It would be so much easier if you could just tell us the model computer, lol. Like a Dell Inspiron whatever. :P

I'm going to assume it's using PC133 RAM, but if you could give us the make and model that would be awesome.
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The type of ram your mobo takes is 168 pin ddr sdram at 133. Your maximum allowed memory to be installed is 768, as it stands now you have 512mb installed. As far as the memory goes you will only be allowed to put in another 256mb which isn't much but it answers your question. So if your looking for more memory, your looking for 168pin DDR SDRAM 133mhz.

Edit: Hikarcloud is right, those system specs are a little iffy, if you could give the model of the computer it would be easier.
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Old 05-21-2009, 12:42 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Well, I wish I could give a model number for the computer, but he had it built awhile back and can't locate the receipt or breakdown of what they put into the computer. So, I tried googling the motherboard and found that program... SiSoftware Sandra Lite 2009.SP3c to scan the computer for its hardware makeup.

Edit: I was wondering how you knew it was 168 PIN. That's what I was looking for but couldn't find it. I see where you are getting the 133 mhz. Thanks.
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Ah, I see...hmm.

See, the problem here is that it says your motherboard can support a max of 768mb of RAM (256mb each slot) in 3 slots. Yet it also says there's a 512mb stick in one of the slots. I'm wondering if it's accurate or not. I would download CPU-Z and check what is says about your memory.

I do know you need PC133 RAM though. Here's the cheapest 256mb stick on newegg: Newegg.com - mushkin 256MB 168-Pin SDRAM PC 133 Desktop Memory - Desktop Memory

Personally though, I think it's time for an upgrade. You can build a nice machine for decently cheap nowadays, depending on your needs. Upgrading this machine is really a waste of money...after you buy this RAM and a decent sized HDD, you'll be putting at the very least 75 bucks into this, and you could put that towards something much nicer. Forgetting the fact that 256mb of extra RAM won't really do anything for you.
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Edit: I was wondering how you knew it was 168 PIN. That's what I was looking for but couldn't find it. I see where you are getting the 133 mhz. Thanks.
I used the easiest info finder on the internet: my friend Google. I searched for VIA Technologies, Inc. , Model : P4X266E-8235.

Anyways, cpu-z will be your friend in this situation to provide the most accurate information. Would you be willing to upgrade your machine? Yours seems fairly dated and we could spec you a build pretty cheap if you are willing. It would be well worth it and to be honest, you will see a lame increase in performance by putting in 256mb of ram.

Edit: Hikaricloud pwns me at response time
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Edit: I was wondering how you knew it was 168 PIN. That's what I was looking for but couldn't find it. I see where you are getting the 133 mhz. Thanks.
133mhz is PC133, which is 168 pin SDRAM. I've worked with so many different types of RAM I'm like an encyclopedia to borderline useless RAM knowledge. :P

Or you know, james decided to use google, which works too, lol.
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Thank you. I actually am trying to persuade my dad to upgrade his computer. I had planned on using the case and two CD Drives. That means I would need:

CPU
Motherboard
RAM
PSU
HD Drive

He has his original Windows XP Profressional CD with the product key so I figure he could save money by using that. His monitor is a nice 19" LCD full screen, so no need to replace that. Thanks again, if you have a better solution or alternate idea, let me know.
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Just for the cheapest 'decent' build, you could spend around $200. You could of course drop the price, looking around. He could also use a single core processor, to save a little more cash.

Newegg.com - PC CHIPS A15G &#40;V1.0&#41; AM2&#43;&#47;AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - AMD Motherboards

Newegg.com - AMD Athlon 64 X2 7750 Kuma 2.7GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache 2MB L3 Cache Socket AM2&#43; 95W Dual-Core black edition Processor - Processors - Desktops OR Newegg.com - AMD Athlon 64 LE-1640 Lima 2.7GHz Socket AM2 45W Single-Core Processor - Processors - Desktops

Newegg.com - SUPER TALENT 2GB &#40;2 x 1GB&#41; 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 &#40;PC2 6400&#41; Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Desktop Memory

Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar SE WD2500AAJS 250GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb&#47;s 3.5&#34; Internal Hard Drive - Internal Hard Drives

Newegg.com - Rosewill RD400-2-DB 400W ATX V2.2 Power Supply - Power Supplies
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It has a VIA chipset, here's what I found.

VIA P4X266E - Evolution of the world's first DDR Pentium 4 platform featuring Performance Driven Design - VIA Technologies, Inc.

Looks like (3) 1GB sticks of PC3200 will fill it up for winxp.
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