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Old 02-15-2007, 08:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello there. I am heading to a computer show this weekend to pick up some parts so I can rebuild two systems. I am fairly computer literate, and have physically put a computer together before - it's the specifics on the hardware that have my head spinning. On both computers I need motherboards, processors and RAM. And those are the things I know the least about, lol.

The first system is used mostly for gaming (EQ2), intensive graphics (photo editing, animation, etc) and then your basic internet/word processing use. I was thinking of getting a:
-MachSpeed MSNV-939 nVidia Socket 939 motherboard
-AMD Athlon 64x2 4400+ 2.2GHZ dual core processor

I am partial to AMD, and price is a factor since at the moment I am rebuilding at not the best time financially but I can't wait much longer to upgrade from my (gulp) AMD Athlon XP 1700+ (yes I was running EQ2 on that).

I also need a new video card for that one, and I have no real idea for what I want for that, only to try and keep the price down.

The second computer is just a basic general computer. Internet, word processing, Quick Books used mostly. But, I don't want to have to upgrade anytime soon so I was thinking of just putting the same processor/motherboard in this as the other.

Now for RAM. I don't want to buy DDR2 RAM. I just don't have the $$ at the moment. Plus, I have about 1.5 GB RAM in regular DDR RAM right now that I can recycle into the new ones. For RAM right now I have 1792MB of PC 2100 RAM. I have no idea what the difference is in 2100 vs 3200 etc. I would like to have 2GB RAM in EACH machine. Can I buy PC 3200 RAM and have it work in conjunction with the PC 2100? How does that effect the speed?

Sorry that was long, but thank you for your advice.
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Old 02-16-2007, 06:38 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Copy my build and you to will be able to enjoy over 100Fps on BF2 with 8xAA, HIGH, 1280x1024

lol, and get over 10,700 in 3Dmark06 stock

I love my system **Gives Hug**
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I appreciate the reply, but I really am set on an AMD system, and like I said, I just don't have the money right now for DDR2 RAM.
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Old 02-16-2007, 11:07 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Socket 939?
I personally would just get a Allendale or Conroe. Right Now they are Owning AMD
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Old 02-16-2007, 08:56 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Ok, after reading enough to make my head swim, I have come up with two final possible builds. (I did do an Intel even though I don't know anything about Intel) The AMD build would be around $550, and the Intel would be around $570, so not a huge difference.

AMD:
Case: Rosewill R5601-BK 0.8mm SECC Screw-less Dual 120mm Fans ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Power supply: Ultra V Series 500W Power Supply
Motherboard: ASUS A8N5X Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 ATX AMD
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ Toledo 2.4GHz Socket 939 Processor Model ADA4600DAA5CD
RAM: WINTEC AMPO 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200)
Video Card: EVGA 256-P2-N615-TX GeForce 7600GT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16

Intel:

Case: Rosewill R5601-BK 0.8mm SECC Screw-less Dual 120mm Fans ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Power supply: Ultra V Series 500W Power Supply
Motherboard: ASUS P5L-VM 1394 LGA 775 Intel 945G Micro ATX Intel
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 Conroe 2.13GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6400
RAM: Kingston 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Desktop Memory Model KVR667D2
Video Card: EVGA 256-P2-N615-TX GeForce 7600GT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16

For a $20 difference, how much difference is there between the two rigs in performance terms? And, I am not one to upgrade my computer often. I like to basically beat it into the ground until it runs like crap and I HAVE to buy a new one. How long (obviously a rough estimate) would each of these systems last me? Am I looking at having to upgrade next year, or would I be ok for a few years? For example, right now I am running off of an AMD Athlon XP 1700+ 1.1ghz with 768mb of PC2100 RAM in it and a GeForce 5900 128mb Video Card, and I am just now saying "hmm I really need to upgrade". Yet I do fairly intensive photo editing and animation on it plus I've been playing EverQuest 2 on it since it came out, and I haven't really minded how it ran until recently it started crapping out on me. I would like to get the most from my money without going overboard, but leaving my self some "growing room" so that I am not replacing the entire system in a year.

Thanks again in advance for all your advice.
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for an extra $20 you would be getting sooooo much more power
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By far, you are better off going with the Intel system....if you did some research you would find that the C2D processors are the greatest advance in processor technology in like, 8 years.....

It doesnt matter that "you do not know Intel" ...thats like saying "I've always owned a Ford and therefore wouldn't know how to drive a Chrysler"

You are really on a tight budget but that 2nd system you will be happy with..

Post links from newegg so we can see the prices.

Do you really want a micro motherboard?

Try to fit a Fortron PSU into your budget instead of Ultra.
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Old 02-17-2007, 10:24 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16813138037

Processor: http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16819115004

RAM: http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16820220088

Video Card: http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16814130062

Power supply: http://shop3.outpost.com/product/4587977 (how can you beat ONLY paying shipping!)

I switched to this Biostar mobo after I posted
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It appears to be a pretty nice setup that you have there. You really are getting much more power for $20 more.

I think that the first thing to really go in this thing would be the power supply.

Aside from that this looks like a pretty nice system for video editing and animation work. Have fun!
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Looks good^

But get this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817104954

You can go with the E6300, not much diff than the E6400 if its less money...

E cores are designed to be overclocked and are done so with ease..

Good luck,

DONT cheap out on a PSU!
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