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Old 07-30-2008, 12:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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need help with any suggestions on this build which will be used for home use only no video gaming or editing. Don't know if I should go with integraded video or not Thanks



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For home usage, yes, use integrated graphics. You would easily run this system on a 500W Rosewill power supply, so you can save some money there.

For integrated graphics motherboards, look for a motherboard with the GF8200 integrated graphics, as this is the best Nvidia integrated graphics. Otherwise, look for integrated GF7000, or if you need this build to be cheaper, go with an AMD cpu and the Biostar 780G motherboard. That is the best integrated graphics you will find.
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He is not using his computer for gaming. So, the video card won't make any difference for what he is using.

Furthermore, he could get a cheaper motherboard like P31 and spend the rest of the money on 8400GS

Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-P31-S3G LGA 775 Intel P31 ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards

8400GS for $22.99 after MIR
Newegg.com - MSI N8400GS-TD256 GeForce 8400 GS 256MB 64-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards

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Or get this cheap Nvidia motherboard with integrated GF7000 (only $34.99 after MIR)
Newegg.com - ZOTAC N73V-Value LGA 775 NVIDIA GeForce 7050 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards

Also, you could save more money by getting E2180, which is just as good for your needs
Newegg.com - Intel Pentium E2180 Allendale 2.0GHz 1MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Processors - Desktops
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If he isn't using the mobo for gaming (which I already know and is why I was recommending motherboards with good integrated solutions for at least casual internet games and video playback) then why did you just recommend an 8400GS when any integrated solution would usually be cheaper and easier to use.

That motherboard is $65 alone. He could get a good integrated video mobo such as the 780G:
Newegg.com - BIOSTAR TFORCE TA780G M2+ AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - AMD Motherboards
$80 (70 after MIR) and then get an AMD Athlon X2 5200+ for cheaper and would perform just as good for his needs.

Newegg.com - AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ Brisbane 2.7GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 65W Dual-Core Processor - Processors - Desktops
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If you don't plan on overclocking I would get and AMD 780g motherboard and an Athlon x2 5400+.

Newegg.com - Foxconn A7GM-S AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - AMD Motherboards
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That ram is extremely slow for its price. This ram is only $3 more before mail in rebate, and is significantly faster

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If he isn't using the mobo for gaming (which I already know and is why I was recommending motherboards with good integrated solutions for at least casual internet games and video playback) then why did you just recommend an 8400GS when any integrated solution would usually be cheaper and easier to use.
I was just giving him more options. He could get cheaper motherboard and spend the rest of money on cheap 8400GS instead of getting more expensive motherboard with onboard video card.

However, I edited my post and I added a much cheaper motherboard that have integrated Nvidia graphics.
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You get what you pay for. Cheaper motherboards with integrated solutions tend to not support as many other features. For instance, the motherboard you edited in (the Zotac) only supports DDR2 667 or lower, has an FSB of 1066 or lower, and only 4 SATA connections (which is fine for most people that only have one hard drive and one optical, though).

Now, the 780G motherboard I recommended with a cheaper CPU that performs still very well for his needs will support DDR2 1066, has a full PCI-E 2.0 x16 slot, 6x SATA2 connectors, and other various benefits. If it is a matter of cost, there is a similar 780G for $60 by ECS.
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Thanks for the quick replys.I think I would like to stay with intel if possible.I know that Intel is a little more in cost but I am not to familiar with AMD as far as general home use.Being a novice I am not sure what components would match for a good budget system.I do not want something that will be outdated in six months or unable to upgrade at a later date.
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In that case, go ahead with your Intel motherboard and CPU. Although, you would be fine running either an E2180 or E2200 which would save you a little bit over the E2220.
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If you stick with Intel I recommend getting this motherboard that has better integrated graphics and is cheaper along with the ram I posted Earlier.

Newegg.com - XFX MG63Mi7159 LGA 775 NVIDIA GeForce 7150 / nForce 630i HDMI Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards
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