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Old 05-07-2006, 07:54 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Alright all, in the search of a new laptop computer, starting to think more seriously about it now and have a few questions;

I’ll outline my purposes for the machine to qualify the spec in your minds. Gaming machine is more so what I’m looking for, I want to run CAD programs and have the option of running newly released games, I don’t intend to fundamentally upgrade the laptop in future (since its so awkward) so higher end components to ensure longevity are a preference. Portability is not a major issue, and battery life is not a concern given the demands of the components I propose the use of (average >2 hours)

I have roughly £1500 to spend (approx. $3000) I don’t particularly want to spend that much, but if it proves worthwhile, then I would consider the expenditure.

a)[Software perspective] Firstly, is it the right time to buy? With Windows Vista well under development am I wasting my time purchasing XP again?

b)[Processor Considerations] For the most part I have looked at Intel chipsets, however AMD seem to be more predominant in the higher end market, do you each have considerations or reservations with regards to these manufacturers? Which suits the job of multitasking and gaming processes best against the costs? Intel using DDR2 a real consideration?

c)[Processor Models] If Intel seems to be the clear choice, what grade of processor should be looked at? Dual core is the new option for laptops but would it suit a high end model better than the older available models? +2 gig is that I feel I am after, worthwhile paying that extra (when considering longevity)?

d)[RAM] I want to push the boat out and opt for 3 gig of RAM if the laptop supports it, in my experience its been the most cost effective upgrade, is DDR still the boy or is SD making a come back, is it likely that laptops will be released with the 3 gig option soon? I have seen very few.

e)[Graphics Card] This is a grey area for me, nVidia or ATi? 512 seems to be the choice or is dual 256 on SLi a better approach. The latest graphics cards generally are well over priced, but I still want something that will last, tough one.

f)[Manufacturer] I have scouted a few big and small names here’s the run down, add to it?;

- First look was the Dell XPS (people generally have low opinions of Dell, I need to know why other than service reasons) if the sale comes with their double memory offers and free shipping is this a decent option? Is the laptop itself relatively good value for money?

- Alienware; not sure what model again processor choices hindered my progress, is this manufacturer worthwhile considering? Seemingly better value than Dell but I’m not entirely sure.

- Acer; again not familiar with range, but seem to offer better value, however do they produce a higher end module?

- Ibuypower.com? customise of doom? Worthy or not? Sell to uk?

- Rock Computers is another, expensive though

No doubt there are a host of others, advice on which of these (even if not to buy with) would be helpful, including a reason why.

I know this seems a lot, I’ve tried to make it as clear as possible, with the split topic areas (i.e. a, b, c etc) its intended that people with specialist knowledge can input in their areas (i.e. graphics enthusiast answering part “e”) thanks for the help anyone can offer, I appreciate the time you may spend answering.

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I would go with 2GB"s of ram, as that is the most optimal best choice. The intel core duo would be a nice cheap alternative then the AMD X2 series or FX 60 :shocked: . The Video card the go 7800GTX, go 7900GTX. Or if you could wait for the X1900XT mobile. SLI eh, if you want a boiling hot water pot on your lap then go for it . If you live in the UK i would suggest getting the rock laptop. I heard those are overclockable and they have relatively good tech support. Plus you can get SLI . Dell XPS is also a decent idea, with the new go 7900GTX. Alienware, eh overpriced not the best out there, but if you do want to spend a lot of money go there.

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all i'm going to say is: Take a look at Sager Notebooks....Very high-powered systems at reasonable prices
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Getting a laptop to do all of that is not practical at all!!! Why not build a desktop, for that money you can build the best of the best! or build a good gaming machine and buy a laptop for what they are good at "portability" I am not saying you can't get a laptop to do what you want but why buy a desktop replacement? When a desktop will be twice as powerfull, cheaper, easy to upgrage and you won't have to worry about heat!!
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as far as lappys are concerned even though AMD perform better intel cpus have better battery life and still perform well. i would go with GeForce 7800 or 7900, or ati Radeon X1900XT, those will do well.
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I have roughly £1500 to spend (approx. $3000) I don’t particularly want to spend that much, but if it proves worthwhile, then I would consider the expenditure.

b)[Processor Considerations] For the most part I have looked at Intel chipsets, however AMD seem to be more predominant in the higher end market, do you each have considerations or reservations with regards to these manufacturers? Which suits the job of multitasking and gaming processes best against the costs? Intel using DDR2 a real consideration?

e)[Graphics Card] This is a grey area for me, nVidia or ATi? 512 seems to be the choice or is dual 256 on SLi a better approach. The latest graphics cards generally are well over priced, but I still want something that will last, tough one.

- First look was the Dell XPS (people generally have low opinions of Dell, I need to know why other than service reasons) if the sale comes with their double memory offers and free shipping is this a decent option? Is the laptop itself relatively good value for money?

- Alienware; not sure what model again processor choices hindered my progress, is this manufacturer worthwhile considering? Seemingly better value than Dell but I’m not entirely sure.
I have an AMD, works great on my laptop.

If you're looking to run programs like AutoCAD, you'll need a decent system, though nothing too high-end. My friend has a crappy laptop, 256MB, and it runs terribly slow. You do want to get at least 1GB of RAM. As for graphics card, you won't need an "out-of-the-world" graphcis card, unless you were to do some gaming.

As for Dell, I don't know about the XPS. I know it weighs a ton, so be ready to get a full workout with your laptop. I remember reading someone mentioning getting a desktop, and after seeing your comments, I think that it might be the best way to go, unless you are a college student. If you are going to be working primarily from home, I'd suggest the desktop for all the reasons the guy said up above.

As for Alienware, don't bother with it. My friend has one... I think it's a complete waste of money. You might only like it for the style, but it's not practical -- battery life is extremely short (he had a small laptop). I can't say this positively with all the Alienware laptops, but the one he had was very low (less than the "average 2 hours" you mentioned.)
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