I got the 3000+ also. I also easily overclocked it to 2.4Ghz with the stock heatsink and fan. I'm getting a 28 degree Celsius idle temp as I'm sitting here typing this. I could easily go higher, but 2.4Ghz is plenty for me right now. The 3800+ runs at 2.4Ghz and retails at $323 on Newegg. The 3000+ is $146 on Newegg. That's a savings of $177, so do your research, learn to overclock, and save some money.