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Old 07-04-2009, 07:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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First post I am a newb

Ok so here are my parts.

mobo: ASUS M4A78-E AM2+/AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W
Case: COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower
PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V
RAM: OCZ Blade Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
HD: Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5"
GPU: XFX HD-487A-ZHFC Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16
CD Drive: Sony Optiarc 24X DVD/CD Rewritable Drive Black SATA Model AD-7240S-0B

The total for the build is 792.93

I compiled this list using previous posts from this forum although I did do some tweaks to the builds I found to match my needs.

I want this build to be able to browse the web, have decent gaming capabilities, play high quality videos, and also be able to multitask. I would also like it to be able to achieve a low OC

First, I would like to know if all the parts are compatible.

Second, my original budget was 700$ so if anyone knows how I could lower the price without significantly downgrading any parts It would be highly appreciated. I am also open to any suggestions of smart upgrades that are preferable in the long run I can go as high as 850$

Third, I'm unsure about the motherboard if someone could suggest to me a motherboard preferably one that can crossfire I would be thankful

Thanks I greatly appreciate any feedback.
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Old 07-04-2009, 09:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
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hi

the parts you listed would all work good. but i made up a list that you could consider, that might yield you better results in the long run, like you said.

total is $808 + $33 shipping (-$20 MIR's)

cpu/mobo: Newegg.com - Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, Digital Cameras and more!
hdd/ram: Newegg.com - Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, Digital Cameras and more!
gpu: Newegg.com - HIS H489F1GP Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards
cd/dvd: Newegg.com - Sony Optiarc Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD/CD Rewritable Drive - CD / DVD Burners
psu: Newegg.com - CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Power Supplies
case: Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Computer Cases

there are some changes from your list. i got you a phenom II x4 940, its not really worth the extra money to get the 955.

i got you a 4890 instead of the 4870. it fit into the budget nicely, and with the corsair 750w psu i listed, you would be able to xfire two 4890's without upgrading the psu. plus, the 4890's have been gradually lowering prices, so when you decide to get another one for ridiculous gameplay, they will cost even less.

those are pretty much the only changes made. you mentioned that you would like an xfire mobo, but the one you listed already had xfire support. were you just asking for another option?

also, if you plan to do a good bit of OCing, then you should get a good cpu cooler like on of these

with 92mm fan Newegg.com - Sunbeam CR-CCTF92-4 92mm Core-Contact Freezer CPU Cooler W/TX-2 - CPU Fans & Heatsinks

with 120mm fan Newegg.com - Sunbeam CR-CCTF 120 mm Core-Contact Freezer CPU Cooler W/TX-2 - CPU Fans & Heatsinks
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Old 07-04-2009, 11:02 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Muffin raises at excellent point about the value of the AM2 over the AM3 socket.

You will not see much of a performance gain with having the AM3 socket CPU and DDR3 ram as it still runs it dual channel.

Not worth the extra money IMO.
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Old 07-04-2009, 11:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I took Muffins advice and here is my final build pre-order with everything please review and give any feedback

Sony Optiarc 24X DVD/CD Rewritable Drive Black SATA Model AD-7240S-0B
COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Acer X193Wb Black 19" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor
D-Link WDA-1320 32-bit PCI Wireless G Desktop Adapter
HIS H489F1GP Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power
Logitech EX 110 Black USB + PS/2 Standard Cordless Desktop Keyboard & Mouse Kit
Sunbeam CR-CCTF92-4 92mm Core-Contact Freezer CPU Cooler W/TX-2
Logitech Extreme 3.5mm Supra-aural PC Gaming Headset
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
OCZ Blade Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Desktop Memory Model OCZ2B800C44GK
AMD Phenom II X4 940 Deneb 3.0GHz Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Black Edition Processor Model HDZ940XCGIBOX
GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard

the total is 1,023.87

Again I highly appreciate any feedback thanks in advance and thanks to muffins and Ibm for replying
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Old 07-05-2009, 08:12 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Muffin has the right idea, but I switch it around a bit.

Get this combo deal, you save more money:
Newegg.com - Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, Digital Cameras and more!

Then get the motherboard separately.
Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - AMD Motherboards

I would use that little bit of money you save with that combo and splurge for a 22" monitor like this one:
Newegg.com - Acer X223Wbd Black 22" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 2500:1 - LCD Monitors
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Old 07-05-2009, 10:49 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Thank for the suggestion hikari however does anybody see any quick ways to bring down the cost of the build

thanks in advance
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You could get a lesser video card. Depending on the resolution of your monitor and which level you wish to game on, you don't necessarily need a 4890.

Newegg.com - XFX HD-485X-ZDFC Radeon HD 4850 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards

I just bought this card for a budget gaming build, my monitor is only 1240x1024. I could've afforded a 4870 or 260 but I hate buying things I won't use completely. Saves you $100 if you can deal with slightly less performance.
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-You could get away with a 4850, and you could crossfire later. That's the quickest way to bring down cost.
-Less of a PSU for now.
-You don't really need the core contact, you can overclock a bit on stock.

I rebuilt this thing with combo deals and the like.

Newegg.com - Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, Digital Cameras and more!
Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P AM3&#47;AM2&#43;&#47;AM2 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - AMD Motherboards
Newegg.com - Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, Digital Cameras and more!
Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE 100245L Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards
Newegg.com - CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V &#47; EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Power Supplies
Newegg.com - Sony Optiarc Black 24X DVD&#43;R 8X DVD&#43;RW 12X DVD&#43;R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD&#47;CD Rewritable Drive - CD / DVD Burners
Newegg.com - Acer X193Wb Black 19&#34; 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd&#47;m2 2000&#58;1 ACM - LCD Monitors
Newegg.com - D-Link WDA-1320 IEEE 802.11b&#47;g 32-bit PCI Wireless G Desktop Adapter Up to 54Mbps Data Rates 64&#47;128-bit WEP Wi-Fi Protected Access &#40;WPA&#41; - Wireless Adapters
Newegg.com - Logitech EX 110 Black USB &#43; PS&#47;2 Standard Cordless Desktop Keyboard &#38; Mouse Kit - Keyboards
Newegg.com - Logitech Extreme 3.5mm Supra-aural PC Gaming Headset

All comes to $922.13 after shipping, then you get 30 bucks back in MIRs.

Shaved a little over 100 bucks...really, to start pruning any more after that, you'd need to get a lesser HDD, lesser wireless (some cheap USB), and skimp even more on the PSU, which I don't think is a good idea. The 650w will handle 4850s in crossfire later on no problem.

From now on, could you give us links instead of just copying/pasting the names of the stuff you're getting?
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Thanks a lot for the build hikari I appreciate it. Although, now I have some thinking to do before I order
which will probably be today because I do not want the combo deals to expire.

Also how do I post the newegg link to a part
again I am a newb

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When you are on the part page, just copy the url and paste it in a comment.
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