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Old 01-06-2008, 06:02 PM   #11 (permalink)
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you would be extremely hard pressed to build a decent gaming rig for 300 with all the stuff you need.

you could potentially do it, but it would be hella ugly.

and this is an analogy of how dual/quad cores work. its like you and your 3 friends are trying to go somewhere, you won't get there any faster by you four taking 2 cars rather then all 4 in one car. thats how cpus work. one 4ghz cpu will work faster in doing something then a 1.6ghz dual core, that is if the application is programmed for a single core. if its optimized for 2 cores then you can essentially add the two core speeds together to get the speed of it.
So should i go with dual cor or single?
id say the bulk game ive got are pre dual cor popularity
also i do alot of video converting so wich would be better for that as well?
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Motherboard

Newegg.com - DFI INFINITY P965-S LGA 775 Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

Case

Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER Elite 330 RC-330-KKN1-GP Black SECC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

Power Supply

Newegg.com - FSP Group FSP400-60THN-R ATX 2.0 400W Power Supply 115V/ 220 - 240V NEMKO, TUV, CSA, IEC, UL, CE - Retail

Graphics Card

Newegg.com - POWERCOLOR X1950PRO256MBAC2 Radeon X1950PRO 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail

CPU w/stock HSF

Newegg.com - Intel Pentium E2140 Allendale 1.6GHz 1MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail

Hard Drive

Newegg.com - SAMSUNG SpinPoint T Series HD400LD 400GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache IDE Ultra ATA100 Hard Drive - OEM

Dvd-Burner Drive

Newegg.com - SAMSUNG Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe - OEM

RAM

Newegg.com - Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail


Thats a good budget system, overclock the processor and it will play pretty much any game out there. It dosent quite meet the budget but in fairness, that budget was pretty tight.
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Video encoding is probably the most multi-core optimizing task you could do. You will definately see benefit in that.

Games are just barely starting to take advantage of multiple cores, and don't show as much benefit as you would hope. Only the most recent games will show noticible improvement.

Though, with such a low budget, you would really be better off shoveling snow until you earn the extra $200. If you spend too much on a PC, you start to lose "bang for your buck", however, the same is true if you spend too little.

I think $500, as mentioned earlier by someone, would be an excellent amount to spend.

A $300 machine would likely be capable of playing C&C3, but would start lagging as you got more units in the game, or during the intense battles.
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Hmm It's A Good System
Try This Out(i Mean The Site And These Are the parts I was originally planning on getting)
it came to $296

Case/power supply
10-Bay Black ATX Window Case w/450-Watt Red LED 0212-4 4HL Black

Graphics (i have 2 vga moniters)
Forsa GeForce 6600 512MB DDR2 PCI Express VCD w/DVI TV-out Forsa

Motherboard
ECS 945G-M3 i945G Socket 775 mATX MB w/VID SND & LAN ECS EliteGroup 945G-M3 945G-M3

CPU
Intel Celeron D 356 3.33GHz 533MHz 512KB Socket 775 CPU Intel

Dvd
Hitachi GSA-H30L 16x DVD±RW LightScribe SATA Drive (Black) Hitachi/LG GSA-H30L GSA-H30L

Ram
SimpleTech Value 1GB PC2-4200 240-pin DDR2 Memory SIMPLETECH, INC. SVM-42DR2-1GB

Hard Drive
Western Digital WD2500SD 250GB SATA/150 7200RPM 8MB HDD Western Digital WD2500SD


browse that site and tell me what you could build
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Video encoding is probably the most multi-core optimizing task you could do. You will definately see benefit in that.

Games are just barely starting to take advantage of multiple cores, and don't show as much benefit as you would hope. Only the most recent games will show noticible improvement.

Though, with such a low budget, you would really be better off shoveling snow until you earn the extra $200. If you spend too much on a PC, you start to lose "bang for your buck", however, the same is true if you spend too little.

I think $500, as mentioned earlier by someone, would be an excellent amount to spend.

A $300 machine would likely be capable of playing C&C3, but would start lagging as you got more units in the game, or during the intense battles.
I would if i could but i have a tight wallet as i take care of a disabled relative so its kinda hard for me to come by money even all the games i buy are used and pretty muc hbargain basment stuff
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Never use a PSU that came in a case. They are a risk to all of the hardware in the computer because they could blow and destroy all of the components. With that 6600, C&C3 wouldnt look pretty and that processor is fairly underpowered (i actually used to have a celeron D and the pentium dual core would be a much better alternative). I would reccomend shopping from newegg if your american. I know its hard for you to collect money, but I would just wait until you have say $500 to spend, then build a nice, fast system.
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alright lets see then as far as graphics cards gothe one i posted is 50.99 do yuo have one that is in that range that works nicley?
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Newegg.com - POWERCOLOR X1650XT 256MB PCIE Radeon X1650XT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail

I like this card.
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Yeah... that one is better then the one I was about to recommend.

Would destroy the 6600...
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nice
Im thinkin of 86ing the case and use the one i have know though its not a gaming case it would savew about 40 bucks
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