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Old 03-18-2009, 10:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi, I have kind of been out of the loop for the past few years (I've been living out of he country) and I would like to build a new PC. Before I left I had a pretty decent machine, you know with the case lights, matching cables, oversize fans ect.... the whole nine yards as you can see below. I think I built that thing in 04 or 05. Now that I'm in college, I have little time to game and work off a crappy bottom of the line HP Laptop, which is basically only good for typing and sending emails. I'm lucky to get WC3 running well on this thing.

Anyways I want to build a machine I can play on when I have time. I have a friend who is constantly nagging me to play with him, and I have nothing to play on. So I was looking for a fairly budget machine, maybe $500. I don't want some monster that takes up the entire desktop and raises the room temperature by 20 degrees, just something small and simple that will run games. They don't have to be in high graphics mode or whatever, they just need to run smoothly, without the "Please lower your video settings to improve game quality".

I'm not really sure whats good anymore. The last time I built a machine it was pretty cut and dry what was good and what wasn't, and you knew back then that the higher number was usually the better, faster part. Now it seems, its not that simple. You can buy a 1GB Graphics card but that doesn't necessarily mean its faster than a 512MB Card.

Basically I need a PSU, Case, Mobo, CPU, Graphics Card, Ram, OS, HD, and a CD-Drive. Thats about it. Like I said, by no means does it have to be the fastest, it just has to run games like company of heroes, in low-medium settings. But I definatly want the best bang for my buck, and potentially the possibility to upgrade in the near future should I decide I need more speed.
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This is pretty solid.

mobo & cpu:
Newegg.com - Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, Digital Cameras and more!

gpu:
Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GV-R467D3-512I Radeon HD 4670 512MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards

ram:
Newegg.com - G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Desktop Memory

psu:
Newegg.com - CORSAIR CMPSU-400CX 400W ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Power Supplies

hdd:
Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD3200AAKS 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - Internal Hard Drives

optical:
Newegg.com - LITE-ON Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM SATA 22X DVD Burner - CD / DVD Burners

case:
Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER Elite 330 RC-330-KKN1-GP Black SECC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Computer Cases

os:
Newegg.com - Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders - Operating Systems

Total is $555.08 with shipping, then $40 mail in rebate. So its like $510, and will play games at good settings.
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Newegg.com - AMD Phenom 8450 Toliman 2.1GHz 3 x 512KB L2 Cache 2MB L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 95W Triple-Core Processor - Processors - Desktops

Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-MA770-UD3 AM2+/AM2 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - AMD Motherboards

Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE 100265HDMI Radeon HD 4830 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards

Newegg.com - Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - Internal Hard Drives

Same RAM, PSU, optical, case, OS.

$569 w/$35 MIR and free shipping on CPU, PSU, hard drive, RAM, optical drive, and OS.

so, $14 for more CPU,more storage, and a better all around mobo.
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Gaaahhhh beaten again. j/k

With the 8450 Toliman there is actually a coupon code to make it $71.99, AMD335 exp. 3/31
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Better all around mobo? That 780G ASUS is a pretty nice one...

But nice build in general.
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Even better.

Full ATX, more USB, can handle more RAM, 8-channel sound. No onboard graphics, so that is it's main shortcoming.
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Actually, the 7750 Kuma is usually faster compared to a 8450 Toliman.
Not to mention, it will probably reach a further overclock.

AnandTech: The Phenom II X4 810 & X3 720: AMD Gets DDR3 But Doesn't Need It

AnandTech: The Phenom II X4 810 & X3 720: AMD Gets DDR3 But Doesn't Need It

But, in those charts they have the 8650, which is a step above from the 8450.
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Will this power supply work?

Newegg.com - APEVIA ATX-AS520W-BK 520W ATX Power Supply - Power Supplies

Its what I have in my old machine, and it still works fine. Although its weird the brand name had changed. It used to be called Aspire.

Also is there and Nvidia option for the video card and mobo somewhere in that price range?
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Aspire and Apevia are both on the Brands to Avoid list: http://www.techist.com/forums/f76/re...-guide-137927/

Here is the list for High to Medium End computers:
  • Antec
  • BeQuiet! (Dark Power Pro Models)
  • Enermax (NoiseTaker And Infiniti 720W)
  • OCZ Technology
  • Fortron (FSP)
  • Hiper (Type M and Type R Only, 670 and 730 Watts)
  • Seasonic
  • Sunbeam (NUUO 550W)
  • Silverstone
  • Gigabyte (Odin GT)
  • Rosewill (Xtreme Series, RD600N)
  • PC Power and Cooling
  • Corsair
  • I-Star
  • Tagan (Except EasyCon 530 Watt)
  • Sparkle
  • Enhance
  • ThermalTake (ToughPower Line Only)
  • Vantec
  • Xclio (850W, Enhance Built, Stable And GreatPower Models)
  • Ultra (X Finity, X3's Models, X Pro)
  • Mushkin (Excluding HP-550 Model)
  • NorthQ (Giant Connector 850W)
  • Coolermaster (Real Power Series only)
  • Fortron (FSP)
  • Zalman (ZM600-HP)

Here are the top brands in descending order:
  • Super Micro
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  • Etasis
  • Zippy
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  • Corsair
  • Silverstone (ST400)
  • Enhance
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  • OCZ Technologies
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  • Antec
  • Mushkin (Excluding HP-550 Model)
  • Hiper (Type R and Type M only)
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Did you notice that there are a suspiciously high number of people coming back to comment on how that PSU has been working fine for long periods of time including 3, 4 and even 6 years? But hey, yours is still going after what? 4 years so maybe its all true who knows. Either way you will probably need a new PSU since I don't see any SATA or PCI-e 6 pin connectors.

EDIT: has two SATA connectors
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