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Old 08-18-2010, 02:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Building a pc for the first time, need some help to make sure it all works.

So I'm getting parts together online from Newegg. I just want to make sure all these parts go together and also is there any thing for around the same part that would increase performance over what I chosen. I.E. A better video card. Any help would be nice.

Full tower case ATX

Western Digital RE3 WD5002ABYS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive


XFX HD-583X-ZAFV Radeon HD 5830 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity

ASUS Black SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model DVD-E818A6T/BLK/B/G

RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-730SS 730W ATX12V V2.2/ EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Modular LED Power Supply

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-4GBNQ

JetWay JBI-600-LF LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core i3-540 Clarkdale 3.06GHz LGA 1156 73W Dual-Core Desktop Processor BX80616I3540



Thanks for the help!
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Old 08-18-2010, 02:14 AM   #2 (permalink)
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What's your budget? What are you going to use it for? Where do you live? (determines where you buy from)
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I want to use it for gaming, so i reposted in high performance section I guess. Spending limit i'd like around 900~ dollars. I listed parts from new egg. Should I delete this post?
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No this thread is fine and you can't delete this post if a mod deems moving it necessary they will for you.

On the subject of the build next time links help rather than just titles but that's just fyi.

What case are you buying?

The motherboard and psu are kind of garbage and the cpu wont fit that board.

Let me see what I can find.

Ram - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231277
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600

CPU and mobo - http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.459207
Intel Core i5-760 Lynnfield 2.8GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core & EVGA P55 SLI 132-LF-E655-KR

HDD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148395
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500418AS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5

Optical - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827135202
ASUS DVD-E818A6T

Case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811147153
Rosewill Challenger

PSU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139006
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V

GPU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130562
EVGA 768-P3-1360-TR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 768MB 192-bit GDDR5

$906.92

That setup will dominate.
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Why won't the cpu fit that board? I've never ordered parts all alone before so I'm not quite sure what to look for when getting compatible parts. Also here is a pc i just tried putting together with links.

Case + PSU
Newegg.com - Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, LED LCD TV, Digital Cameras and more!

Video card + Ram
Newegg.com - Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, LED LCD TV, Digital Cameras and more!

CPU + Mobo
Newegg.com - Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, LED LCD TV, Digital Cameras and more!

Well I guess my post didn't go through, I'll reply again.
Why won't that CPU fit? I've never built a pc from nothing before so i'm not too sure what to look for. Also here is another computer I went for. Is this any better and compatible?

Newegg.com - Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, LED LCD TV, Digital Cameras and more! < - Case, Power supply

Newegg.com - Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, LED LCD TV, Digital Cameras and more! <- Video card, Ram

Newegg.com - Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, LED LCD TV, Digital Cameras and more! <- Mobo, CPU

I didn't list dvd and harddrive as i didn't feel they were as important. Thanks for looking as well.

I want to be able to handle games on max settings and the reviews of that video card said it was a light video card.
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I'm not quite sure I'd call it a light card.

my gt240 is a light card the gtx460 is in the higher midclass

Well originally i was looking at price but for a little more you could get the card you originally chose.

The fact of the matter is you'll be able to run most games on high to max settings with either card but without a bigger budget you wont max on every game.
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Would this be any good? I'm sorry I will most likely use the one you chose but i'm trying to see if i could get a good one as well unless i'm totally useless at this.

GPU
Newegg.com - XFX HD-585X-ZAFC Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w&#47; Eyefinity

Case+ Ram
Newegg.com - Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, LED LCD TV, Digital Cameras and more!

Power supply + hard drive
Newegg.com - Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, LED LCD TV, Digital Cameras and more!

CPU + mother board
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+ Hard drive and the total is 930.95
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That CPU is LGA1156 and the motherboard is LGA1366, these are two different sockets and are NOT compatible. You should get a different CPU anyways, the i3 isn't a great chip, go with either an i5 (which are also LGA1156 so you'd need to find an LGA1156 motherboard) or an i7. The i7's are available in either LGA1156 or LGA1366 packages but I recommend the LGA1366 ones because the LGA1366 platform provides much higher bandwidth to PCI Express cards and other devices for better system performance. The i7 8xx are 1156, the i7 9xx are 1366.

For $900 you probably won't be able to go with LGA1366, I priced out a basic upgrade (LGA1366 motherboard, i7 930, and 6GB DDR3 RAM) and it was around $750, you will need a gaming graphics card, case, PSU, HDD, optical drive still and possibly monitors/keyboard/mouse/OS too. If you don't need any of those you may be able to squeeze in a 1366 build for $1000 but you won't have a very good graphics card. Instead either look at LGA1156 (Core i5, Core i7 8xx) CPU's and motherboards or look at AMD systems. AMD's Phenom 2 X4 chips are pretty good and are usually a good bit cheaper than a comparable Intel build (something higher end from the LGA1156 line). Like the LGA1156, AMD's chips also run dual-channel memory (LGA1366 runs triple-channel so you need 3 sticks of RAM instead of 2) so you save on a stick of RAM as well.

I'm not too big on AMD as I bought an LGA1366 i7 but here's a sample Phenom build, AMD users can point out any flaws:

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition (Unlocked multiplier for overclocking): $175.99
Newegg.com - AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-890GPA-UD3H (Best AMD chipset, SATA6, USB3.0 support): $139.99
Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-890GPA-UD3H AM3 AMD 890GX HDMI SATA 6Gb&#47;s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard

RAM: A-DATA Gaming Series 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz: $89.99
Newegg.com - A-DATA Gaming Series 4GB &#40;2 x 2GB&#41; 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 &#40;PC3 12800&#41; Desktop Memory Model AX3U1600GB2G9-2G

For these core components, total cost is $405.97

GPU: XFX HD-587X-ZNFV Radeon HD 5870 1GB: $389.99
Newegg.com - XFX HD-587X-ZNFV Radeon HD 5870 &#40;Cypress XT&#41; 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

Total thus far: 795.96

HDD: Samsung Spinpoint 500GB SATA: $54.99
Newegg.com - SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb&#47;s 3.5&#34; Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

Case: Rosewill Blackbone Mid-Tower: $34.99
Newegg.com - Rosewill Blackbone Black Steel &#47; Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

Optical Drive: LG Black 22X DVD Burner: $17.99
Newegg.com - LG Black 22X DVD&#43;R 8X DVD&#43;RW 16X DVD&#43;R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 5X DVD-RAM 12X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM SATA 22X DVD Burner - Bulk - CD / DVD Burners

Total before PSU: $903.03

PSU: Antec NeoPower 650W: $74.99
Newegg.com - Antec NeoPower 650 650W ATX12V &#47; EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Active PFC Power Supply

End Total: $978.92

I know it's a little bit more than you budgeted but the 5870 is a top notch card and the CPU is AMD's best quad core. I did cut costs on the HDD, case, and optical drive as they are less important for a gaming build, but you can always change them without much fear of incompatibility. Look for at least an ATX Mid Tower for the 5870 as it's a very big card. You could also drop the 965 for the 955 (still a Black Edition so theoretically you could get the same overclock) and save $21, dropping lower you could get the 945 but it is not a Black Edition and only has a power rating of 95W so it may not be as good for overclocking. The drop from the 955 to the 945 will save you $15, so dropping the 965 I listed for the lower-end 945 will save you a total of $36. You could also look into cheaper DDR3 RAM, though I recommend gaming series RAM at 1600MHz, cheaper RAM has worse timings and even though the speeds are the same it won't perform as well.

In the end, if you need to cut, you can cut down to the Radeon HD 5850 and save around $100. The 5850 should work fine if you're playing on a 1920x1200 or less monitor. My 5870 runs 3 1920x1080 monitors in Eyefinity pretty well so it does have a lot of extra power you may not need.
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It's ok the best way to learn is to do.

I can tell you on hear I learn new things about building everyday.

Thats not a bad setup tho I would still go with the Corsair PSU. You never want to skimp on a psu.
Ram it's pretty much safe to say anything ripjaw is a greenlight.

This would do you good
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.458447

this would be my recommendation just because of the wattage
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.469092
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I can spend 1000 dollars if it will perform well. In what respect do you think it will play games? Such as Call of duty, or Starcraft 2? I can spend the 1000 dollars if it's going to perform well. I wouldn't want to cut on the video card. Also I have an OS, speakers, mouse and keyboard. Thanks for all the help.
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