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Old 01-08-2010, 03:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Building an Computer ready to handle top Graphics and recording with FRAPS

Hello, I want a computer that can handle top Graphics and Recording with Fraps with no lag present.
Here are the games I want to record:
-Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow
-Splinter Cell Chaos theory
-Splinter Cell Double agent
-Splinter Cell Conviction
-Portal
-Call Of duty + United offence
-Call of duty 2
-Call of duty 4
-Call of duty 5
-Call of duty 6
-The elder scorlls 4: Oblivion
-Assassins Creed
-Assassions Creed 2
-Mafia
-Half-life
-Half-life 2
-Grand theft auto 3
-Grand theft auto Vice city
-Grand theft auto San Andreas
-Grand theft auto 4

Someone on a different Forum (Filefront gaming forums) suggested this build:

1. Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor

2. ASUS P7P55 LX LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard

3. 2x XFX HD-489X-ZSFC Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
(In case you missed I need two of these.)

4. G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ

5. CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply

6. Antec Six Hundred Black / Silver ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

7. Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive -Bare Drive

8. Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
(I have a Samsung recovery CD that has Vista on it. Can I use that or not?)

Here are the links to the components on two sites (Alternate.de and newegg.com):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-215-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...s%20P7P55%20LX
2x http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...k=XFX%20HD4890
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231193
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...%20CMPSU-750TX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...0Six%20Hundred
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ALS%20750%20GB

http://www.alternate.de/html/product...l3=Sockel+1156
http://www.alternate.de/html/product...l3=Sockel+1156
2x http://www.alternate.de/html/product...=Radeon+HD4000
http://www.alternate.de/html/product...3&l3=DDR3-1600
http://www.alternate.de/html/solrSea...productDetails
http://www.alternate.de/html/solrSea...productDetails
http://www.alternate.de/html/solrSea...productDetails

I'm pretty sure this build would do a great job with what I want to do. But since I live in Germany it goes way over my budget. Do any of you here have a completely new build or modifications to this one that can make it less pricy?
Thank you for reading and for replies!
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Specs look perfect. You could easily remove one of the 4890s to save money, a single one will plenty for now.
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only problem i see is the asus mobo would cause a noticeable bottleneck on the second gfx card since it would only run at x4.

also, if you can afford 2 4890s, i would drop those and look at a single 5850 or 5870 instead.

but you say this is way over your budget though, so what is your budget? is it just for the tower or for an OS, keyboard/mouse, monitor also?
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Muffin Man to what you said:
My budget is exactly 1150$ and 800€
I have Mouse Keyboard Speakers and Monitor. But I was wondering if I could use the Keyboard monitor and speakers of my 17 inch laptop?
My laptop came with a Samsung windows Vista installation disk? Can I use this on a built PC? Or do I have to buy a new OS?
Could you link me the 5850 and 5870 Graphic cards on newegg? What performance difference do two 4890s and one of the ones you suggested make? I think If I get only one Graphics card it would solve the bottleneck problem right?
And by the way can I use a DVD-Rom Optical drive from my old Desktop? Or do I have to buy a new one?
MY budget is for the Parts I listed in my first post and maybe a DVD-rom optical drive.
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Get the Asus P7P55D PRO, it supports two cards both running at 8x Newegg.com - ASUS P7P55D PRO LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards
or if you want usb3.0 Newegg.com - ASUS P7P55D-E Pro LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards
Get this GPU Newegg.com - XFX HD-585A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5850 (Cypress Pro) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card w/ATI Eyefinity - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards
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That is pretty expensive compared to the other one don't you think? Do you have a cheaper variant since I am considering the option that Muffin man said of getting one Graphics card.
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Well, it's cheaper than two cards so...
You can get one HD4890 now and buy a second one later on. HD4890 should be plenty for those games.
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Full Graphics Resolution (1440x900) and AA really? Remember I also want to record a video with Fraps. The VIdeo should have 30FPS but my ingame FPS should be 60+ while recording so I don't get lag.
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wow, parts over there are a good bit more expensive than here in the US.

you still get a real nice rig, just had to cut back on a couple things. using the site you listed, this is what i managed to gather.

https://www.alternate.de/html/produc...4_945/344110/? phenom ii x4 945
https://www.alternate.de/html/produc...4N68T/394897/? asus m4n68t am3
https://www.alternate.de/html/produc...3_Kit/364481/? g.skill ddr3 1333mhz cl 7
https://www.alternate.de/html/produc...D5850/370977/? powercolor hd 5850
https://www.alternate.de/html/produc...00_GB/218929/? wd 500gb caviar blue
https://www.alternate.de/html/produc..._620W/212893/? cm real power m 620w
https://www.alternate.de/html/produc...e_331/173005/? cm elite 331
https://www.alternate.de/html/produc...4-Bit/366599/? windows 7 home premium

and yes, you can reuse your optical drive from your old desktop.

these come to a sub-total of €782.

with the addition of what i think means "shipping cost"(if i got the translation right), the total comes to €799.
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Nicely done!
Can I use the old build with some modifications?

Intelģ Core™ i5-750 Prozessor (Boxed, FC-LGA4, "Lynnfield") €164.88
Asus M4N68T (Sound, G-LAN, SATAII-RAID) €51,90
G.Skill DIMM 4 GB DDR3-1333 Kit (F3-10666CL7D-4GBRH, Ripjaws-Serie) €72,90
PowerColor HD5850 (HDMI, 2x DVI, DisplayPort)
Western Digital WD5000AAJS 500 GB (Caviar Blue) €39,99 (This have 7200RPM?)
Cooler Master RealPower M 620W (3x PCIe, Kabel-Management, Schwarz (Hochglanz)) €89,90
Cooler Master Elite 331 (Schwarz) €33,99
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit €79,90

Total: €822,46

If I use this build can I still play all of the listed games at highest resolution and Graphics and record full size with no lag?
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